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The Cast
People who stepped up to the mic during the broadcast.
Ed Vedder (Eddie)
Singer for Pearl Jam
Kim Warnick (Kim)
Singer/Bassists for The Fastbacks
Kurt Block (Kurt)
Drummer for The Fastbacks
Stone Gossard (Stone)
Pearl Jam Guitarist
Jeff Ament (Jeff)
Pearl Jam Bassist
Val Agnew (Val)
Drummer in Seven Year Bitch
Greta ??? (Greta)
Mark Arm (Mark)
Singer for Mudhoney
Steve Turner (Steve)
Guitarist for Mudhoney
Krist Novoselic (Krist)
Bassist for Nirvana
Denis Flemion (Denis)
From The Frogs
Jimmy Flemion (Jimmy)
From The Frogs
Mike Watt (Mike)
Formerly of The Minutemen
Cary ??? (Cary)
Techical Assistant
Donita Plakas (Dee)
Member of L7
Shelley Gossard (Shelley)
Stone Gossard's sister
Sunday, January 08, 1995
Leased Seattle Practice Space
Seattle, Washington, USA

First Set
Spin the Black Circle, Satan's Bed, Corduroy, Not For You, Immortality

Second Set
Last Exit, Blood, Tremor Christ, Porch, Indifference

Monkeywrench Links:
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Saturday Night Special

"What the hell are they going to do for 4 hours?", you probably said. What is going on? Who's this new drummer? Who are Pearl Jam anymore? Following a year when the band nearly fell under the weight of social pressures, axed a drummer, and lost a musical compatriot, Pearl Jam had a lot to prove on the night of January 8, 1995. Or did they? On a night which included live performances, presentation of social issues, and great alternative music (real alternative, that is), Pearl Jam made their point that they didn't have to prove anything to anyone any longer.

Born from the extra satellite time of the April 3, 1994 concert where Ed played DJ and spun records for nearly an hour, "Self-Pollution Radio" was presented to the world via satellite to hundreds of radio stations. The magnificently unpolished night began with a timid Ed getting comfortable behind the mic, a few spins of wax, and a hot 5-song set by Pearl Jam themselves of songs off the most recent offering - Vitalogy. Ed seemed to settle down after that while enjoying the live sets by the Fastbacks, Mudhoney, Mad Season and Soundgarden. The tragic loss of The Gits' Mia Zapata was commemorated with a discussion about the organization Home Alive with members of Seven Year Bitch and Greta. Jeff and Stone grabbed the mic for awhile - Jeff showcasing his Three Fish work and Stone plugging his new record label Loosegroove. Krist Noveselic got a little long-winded for many, but his seriousness was later forgotten after phone calls with Dennis from the Frogs and Mike Watt. Finally, Ed wrapped up with some commentary on the state of a few issues that were on his mind, and ended with the ever hopeful "What a Wonderful World" by Louis Armstrong.

At a time when Pearl Jam had already bucked the system, they began 1995 by bucking it a little more. An ongoing battle with Ticketmaster would cause the 1995 U.S. Tour not to "self-pollute", but to truly throw a "monkeywrench" in the system. Self-Pollution Radio was a success to Pearl Jam, the bands and friends who attended, and the fans who listened and Pearl Jam realized that those people were the only people that mattered. As an introduction to one of their most trying years as a band, Pearl Jam certainly made their four hours of satellite time worthwhile.

Radio Show

This Self-Pollution broadcast was carried by major radio stations in nearly every major United States city. Various cassette or DAT tapes recorded by fans will undoubtedly have annoying station IDs inserted by the carrier. We believe there are a number of "pre-FM" sources - DAT tapes recorded from the satellite signal before it is run through the station board which adds signal compression and station IDs - circulating. These are the best versions of this show as they are generally uncut and have great sound. In close second are Radio Station promotional CDs. The sound will be great, but the also will include station IDs.

(Transcription by: Karen Bilotti, John Reynolds)

Song Aye Davanita
Eddie Hey. Am I on? Hey. Ho. Let's go. Uh, Self-pollution, air pollution, noise pollution, pre-pollution, post-pollution, face pollution, hair pollution, solution pollution. Uh, I don't think so. Not enough solutions to our many complex dilemmas these days.

So here we are broadcasting out from a little place here in Seattle. I don't know if we've got proven answers to any of the issues we might bring up tonight but perhaps you can take 'em home and sort 'em out. Think about how you feel.

Perhaps the beginning of change begins right in your head. Letting your attitudes evolve, and this evolution takes place when there's input.

And the reason we bring this up, well, we've noticed that our society here in America is opening up their homes to some folks who are overflowing with input, and we've seen potentially dangerous attitudes embraced and we're seeing blatant mistruths treated like the gospel, and we're just doing our little bit here...far from equal time...maybe to remind a few of you out there that you are not alone in your opposition and that you are not in the minority when you vote for change. Perhaps the silent majority is gonna have to make some noise.

I've never claimed to be a socio-political expert. I guess I feel compelled to speak out on some issues for no other reason than the fact that I've lived through them. You know, "live through this," well, I have.

And it's tough. It's tough out there and a lot of people are just trying to do their best to survive. And I think some of the situations being created, or that there are situations being created, that can make that impossible.

Again, I could sound like a politician and I'm not. I'm just a guy. And we've got politicians here. We've got musicians. All local neighbors and friends. And we're gonna play for you. They're gonna play for you. Live.

In fact, what you've just endured is probably the longest I'll speak all evening. A couple issues might resurface, like protection of women's reproductive rights, and even the safety of women in society - our mothers, our sisters, girlfriends, wives.

But everyone came to play. And I'm not gonna tell you, or divulge just yet, who is playing but I'd say you're pretty lucky.

We're glad you tuned in. We'll just spin records kind of in between the bands and make calls and take calls and Jeff and Stone will come through and it should be a real interesting night.

Anyways, I got a record player in front of me and I'm gonna start playing some songs.

I'm gonna play a song now that probably didn't get much airplay back in the day but it's off the Daydream Nation record by Sonic Youth and it's track one, side one and it's called "Teenage Riot."

Talk to you guys in a bit.
Song Sonic Youth - Teenage Riot
Song Slant Six - Don't You Ever
comment A song begins. Ed cuts it off after just a few notes.
Eddie I actually could have played the whole rest of the record. That was Slant Six.

I hope they don't mind me playing these songs. These are songs that maybe wouldn't be played on regular radio, all the time anyway. But that was "Don't You Ever" off the Dischord (?) record, again by Slant Six, "Soda Pop Rip-Off."

We're gonna go back, and I think we can go into this little house here. Explain the setup here. There's a little trailer and I'm in here with, like, a tape deck and a turntable. And then we got this little house. And the bands are kinda hanging out in the house and we got a room set up, so I think we're gonna go in there.

And I think we're gonna play first, first two songs and come back and play some more records, and then the bands are just gonna keep coming.

So I know we talked about taking phone calls but let's keep - you know - save your fingers for later. And right now we just got a lot of music to take care of.

And, why don't - I'll let you know later when and if we're gonna do that. We'll definitely do it, and we'll keep the lines open for, like, a couple days. And, you know, I'll take your calls tomorrow, or whatever. But, you know, I'll be around.

But let's do the music now. And this - speaking of the little house and how much fun we have in it - this song's, this song's like about having your first house, and it's by Klark Kent and it's called "Away from Home."

Let me put the needle on the record here.
Eddie Okay. That's the end of "Don't Care," and the next song is "Away from Home" and I'll - I'm gonna run in the house now, and I'll see you from there.
Song Klark Kent - Away from Home plays.
set Pearl Jam Set:
Song Spin the Black Circle
Song Satan's Bed
Song Corduroy
Song Not for You
Song Immortality
Song Daniel Johnston - Walking The Cow
Song Zeke - West Seattle Acid Party
Eddie Alright. Can you hear me here?
other Yes, you can.
Eddie Ah, hey. Well how is it? (laughs)

There's another band setting up in there right now and I'm gonna play you the B side of that single we just listened to - that was the A side, and it's called "West Seattle Acid Party" - and that's by a band called Zeke. And here's the B side, and it's called "Schmidt Rid"
Song Zeke - Schmidt Rid
Eddie (through a voice-altering device) You can love it.

You could've let that keep going, you know. We can do whatever we want for three hours. That's what they told us. That's what I heard. That's what we agreed to.

comment (Ed plays his and Beth's holiday messages)
Song Answering machine beeps: Hello Eddie and Beth. This is Dee, and I just wanted to sing you a little number. (singing) Jingle bell, jingle bell, jingle bell rock, hey, jingle bell road (?) (a man's voice takes over and he sings the tune of jingle bell rock in a seemingly inebriated manner).

(by the woman). Okay, I'm cutting Kirk off.

New answering machine segment, man's voice: Uh, I don't know if you fuckers are in town or not but Peters is having a little gathering for a little, little New Year's Eve, a little New Year's Eve party. Nothing, nothing huge, just a few people over to get drunk and fall down. But don't think you guys are in town, but just in case you are I thought I'd let you know.

Anyway. Yeah, I hope you had a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year and, whatever else, I'll continue hating the world and everybody else in it for the next year or two.

Hadn't started off too good, I went out to my recycling bin to take some shit out there and noticed that the neighbors have been filling their fucking shit - putting their shit in it. So I searched through all their fucking McDonald's sacks and I found a couple of envelopes with their address. So I think I'm just gonna wheel it down to their house and put it in their front yard, spread it in their front yard.

Anyway, I'll be talking at you guys later. Later.

New answering machine message (man's voice): And, well, yeah, Beth, I'm in L.A. so there's no more Seattle number for me right now. I'm here just wondering what I'm doing now because I put six months of hard work into nothing.

So, yeah I'm just kicking it, and, you know, just chilling out here in Los Angeles where the weather's not great and the people aren't either. But, that's cool. Hope you're having fun up there and everything's cool. And hope you had a good New Year's and all that. I got wasted and threw up under the table at a Mexican restaurant, it sucked. It was just, ah.

Alright, give me a call sometime and I'll tell you about my firing. They said I was too loud and - get this, I have it written on my board - too much of a risk taker.

New answering machine message (man's voice): Hey. What's up? It's Mike. It is Christmas Eve. I'm at home, my parents, about to fucking kill my family. It's fuckin', I hate my family.

Just calling up and trying to get ahold of someone. If you wanna talk to me when I'm drunk alone at home tonight you can. Call me there if you guys are up to it or, if not, don't even worry about it.

Have a good Christmas and talk to you soon. Bye.
Eddie (again through a voice altering device) (?)
Song
Song The Descendents - Silly Girl
Eddie Alright. That's, uh, Descendents. The "I Don't Want to Grow Up" album.

We're honored to have - humbled, honored, excited - the Fastbacks are here, and they're in the house and they're ready to play so let's let 'em play.
set Fastbacks:
Song On Your Hands
Song Run No More
Song Old Address of the Unknown
Kim Thank you.
Kurt Thanks. Thanks for having us.
Eddie Wow. Alright, so that's the Fastbacks and that's Kim and Lu Lu singing and Kurt - he sings too and plays guitar. And I'm - from where I am I can't see the drummer and they've changed drummers (laughs) before so I'm not, I'm not sure who it is. Last time it was a guy named Mike.

Anyway, here's Gas Huffer
Song Gas Huffer - More of Everything
Song John Hill (of King Missile) - A Little Restraint (spoken word) I was walking down 12th street, which was fun, past the (vacuum cleaner sound begins in the background) First Presbyterian Church where I used to go to Sunday school, which I still have pleasant memories of. I still don't think of those Sunday school years as fundamentalist brain-washing for the patriarchy.

So it was a pleasant stroll down 12th street til I came upon 6th Avenue and I saw this shithead getting out of his car. I could tell immediately that he was a shithead because the back of his t-shirt said, "As a former fetus, I oppose abortion."

My first instinct was to shout at him, "As a fellow former fetus, I wish you had been an abortion." But I let him walk on ahead of me because I'm not a violent man. I'm not a violent man but I could already picture myself jumping him from behind and punching him, and punching him until my knuckles and his face were a barely distinguishable bloodied, mangled mess.

So I figured, let him walk ahead of me. Get away from me. Get, get away from me. I don't even wanna look at you, you ugly, smarmy pig because I figure, what good would it do for me to get arrested for beating on this one guy so I could sit in jail while he continues to walk the streets, closing down clinics, shooting doctors, attacking women. Oh, don't get me started.

So, so, so I sat on a stoop for a minute or two til I cooled off and then I set fire to his car and just walked away feeling good about myself 'cause, for once in my life, I showed a little restraint.
Eddie Cool, that's John Hall. Is it John S. Hall?
Val John S. Hall.
Eddie And that's something called "A Little Restraint." And I'll talk more about that in a second.

It's been confirmed that it was a guy named Mike playing the drums. Mike Mussberger. He used to play with The Posies and that's - that fills up the lineup for the Fastbacks, which we heard before that.

And then there was Gas Huffer, and that's off of the One Inch Masters record.

Okay, we're gonna talk to ya in a second with something pretty important so, this is The Gits.
Song The Gits - Guilt Within Your Head
Eddie Alright. Well that's, that's a band called The Gits and it brings something up.

This is a pretty unique opportunity to be able to go on the radio like this and it - we appreciate you listening. Give you information on that, it's information that goes with that last song by The Gits and even the one spoken word thing before that and what they have in common is that they're gonna be on this thing called Home Alive, which is a compilation being put together here in Seattle, and the people who are putting it together are with me now so I thought we'd talk about it for a little bit and then maybe play another thing or two off it.

So, we have Val Agnew here, drummer from Seven Year Bitch and her friend, Greta, who they've worked together on this pretty tightly. And another guy who's helped out is Dave Meinert. And they're all sitting here right now.

I guess I'll just throw out a question or let you talk about it. I guess that - get into it, like this is kind of heavy - but I'll just bring it up. The singer in that last band that we listened to, The Gits, she's no longer with us. And, uh (laughs), there you have it. It's really hard to deal with but you're, you are dealing with it and this is, this is one of the ways, right?
Val Yeah. Mia was raped and murdered and, um...
Greta Two years ago.
Val Two years - about a year and a half ago, July 7th, 1993. And we felt very helpless about that. And a group of her friends got together and thought that, we don't want to be helpless. We want to empower ourselves to make sure that that doesn't happen to any more of our friends.

And so Home Alive is not only a record that's gonna to be coming out to raise money for the organization - the organization is a non-profit, it's a collective here in Seattle, and it's to raise awareness about violence in our community and to try to make people aware of the ways that they can individually make decisions how to take care of themselves.
Greta Yeah, so most of the money that's coming from - from all of the benefits that we do here and - and specifically from the CD project - is gonna go to self defense classes to teach, you know, it's for anybody, for men or women.
Eddie That's right, cause right now they're kind of, they're kind of pricey, aren't they?
Greta Yeah they're - they're a bit on the high side for sure (laughs) and we're trying to, you know, we teach anything, from, you know, verbal assault stuff to gun safety to whatever. We're into advocating whatever kind of defense...
Eddie Defense technique, yeah.
Greta You want to do for yourself. It's like we don't have any one set thing that we...
Val Right.
Greta That we teach, you know. We have - there's a lot of misconceptions about that (?) ...
Val Right. We don't have an agenda. We ask people to know what it is that makes them feel safe and to take their own responsibility for - for that. And that we'll try to give the most resources possible for those people to make those decisions for themselves.
Eddie Well there's a few - there's quite a few bands participating, and everything I've heard has been really good. We just heard the spoken word piece by John S. Hall, again, and another spoken word piece that we'll hear in a minute by a guy named Bobby Miller (laughs). I think you're really gonna like it. (everyone laughs).

And if you don't like it then relax. (laughter) Because - you know sometimes even with - just to go off the subject for a - you know with - I don't know - this is, this is the vocabulary of the real world, so some of you are just gonna have to deal with it.

Anyway, some of the people that are on this record, besides the spoken word, things that we mentioned, there's Soundgarden, Joan Jett, Excene (Cervenka), our band...Letty Lunch (?) is gonna be on there?
Greta Mm-hm. Yeah.
Eddie Wow. And Seven Year Bitch.

Let's go ahead and play this Bobby Miller spoken word, and then the last band is DFL48 we're gonna play after and that's The Gits - who are all the people that are still playing?
David Dancing French Liberals of '48.
Eddie Oh, alright.
Val And there's a lot of other local bands, independent people that aren't, like, very well known yet that will be also and spoken word artists that will also be on the record. Then I - there's no really set time when this record will be released so it probably would be a little bit down the line so...
Eddie Yeah. I think you're waiting on us, actually. (laughs) We just wanna make sure that it's really, really good. As soon as I get my shit together.
David As soon as that guy Eddie records, it'll be out.
Eddie Okay, let's play this stuff and after the song here we're gonna - we're gonna go to Mudhoney who's, like, settin' up in the house. So, here we go.
Song Bobby Miller - Keep Your Mouth off My Sisters

This is dedicated to all the women who walk any street in our country. It's called "Keep your mouth off my sisters."

Sometimes you begin to wonder if it's a conspiracy of men asleep at the wheel...the way they spit out words at women they don't even know...that they will never know. And it scares me to think that compared to the things they say, what must be going on inside their brains?

And I wanna scream at them "Hey, keep your mouth off my sisters! Your words cause emotional blisters!"

Did something happen at birth that caused this malfunction, or did they learn it or earn it in some archaic male ritual? "What's the matter, bitch? You a dike?"

Years spent vomiting out abuse at women and men still don't get it? I want to bend each one of them over and fuck the misogeny out of them. (laughter) To wash their mouths out with my dick and let them feel the collective humiliation of women everywhere to be unable to walk the streets safely without feeling like this served (?) up fresh and piping hot. "Oh, yum. And give me a six-pack to wash it down. Oh, you're the man, man. You're the man. You're the big man, man."

You ever notice there's always two of them? They're never alone - like the coward's tag team match of sexual harassment. "Hey, man, does it make you feel like a man? Hey, man, keep your mouth off my sisters."

Song Dancing French Liberals of '48 - Dancing Foreign Legion
Eddie Are they ready? Cool, there you ready? Well, that's it. Before they get bored, Mudhoney's, like, ready to play. You - you guy's - you're lucky bastards. Mudhoney's gonna go live for you here. This is a - song's from a record that's yet to be released. The record's gonna be called My Brother the Cow. And this is Mudhoney live in the house.
set Mudhoney:
Mark Hey. Howdy. This is the first song off our new album. It's called "Judgment, Rage, Retribution and Thyme." It's about four things. I'm not sure what they are.

Judgment, Rage, Retribution and Thyme.Yeah. Truer words have never been said, right? Song number two.

This is a second song off our new record. It's called "Generation Spokesmodel."

Generation Spokesmodel
Mark Okay, this next song is the third song off our new record and it's called "What Moves the Heart". And it poses the musical question, "What moves the heart?"

"What Moves the Heart"
Mark Thank you and now back to you, Ed.
Eddie I was just in watching. So, thanks Mudhoney. Everybody clap at home. I'll clap with you. (clapping)

Well, that's super cool. Thanks to all the guys and their wives and everybody.

Okay, this is - I should slow down for a second. Stone, are you ready? Do you wanna play some...
Stone Ah, yeah. I need to find my suitcase. It's in the box or something.
Eddie Here ya go. Alright. So Stone, what are - you're gonna play something off of this Loose Groove thing, right?
Stone Yeah.
Eddie You've been working on this.
Stone I am. (Ed laughs). And the first band I'm gonna play is a band called Weapon of Choice...
Eddie I'll go right up there...
Stone And this song's called "You Owe It to You."
Eddie Hey, Stone, does this stuff come out on vinyl?
Stone We're actually doing vinyl. Limited edition. And, actually it hasn't come out yet. There's a lot of complex things in running a record company and I'm running up against them all the time. But, of course it will come out on vinyl. This is "U Owe It to U" and it's on Loosegroove records.
Song Weapon of Choice - U Owe It To U
Stone (?)
Eddie I could stomach most of it.
Stone Alright. That was - that was Weapon of Choice and they're out on Loosegroove records, which is a label I'm starting here in Seattle. And right now we're gonna listen to something else - we're gonna be playing some more Loosegroove stuff later in the night - but right now I really feel like we need to go to Atlanta and play some Outkast. This one goes out to Dirk and Lonnie. See ya.
Song Outkast - Ain't No Thang
Eddie Good one. What was I talk...Stone...Stone left and...
Jeff Outkast...
Eddie Jeff's here.
Jeff I'm Jeff. (laughs)
Eddie Yeah. I never heard that before.
Jeff And we're looking for something to play.
Eddie So this is what Stone listens to. It's good. It's good.
Jeff It is. I like it. (laughter) Really. I like it.
Eddie A cassette.

(Recording by unknown male:) Home grown in my backyard is the best herb you could ever find. (laughter) Home grown in my backyard and the public knows it's mine. If you come over to my place...
Eddie (laughs)
Jeff That was from Jeff Ousley, right?
Eddie I thought that was yours. That's not your tape?
Jeff No, it's not my tape.
Eddie Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, deny it now. You've got a tape then?
Jeff What do we want to listen to, songs or words?
Eddie Let's, uh...actually this...Mike and Layne Stayley and...
Jeff Barrett.
Eddie Barrett the drummer and...
Jeff Baker.
Eddie Baker - Mike's friend Baker playing bass - they're kind of getting ready in the house. They're probably gonna, like, be set. We heard the sounds of - this sounds pretty cool from the house as far as the live bands, so we're pretty excited. And we heard that we haven't lost a station yet so that's good news.
Jeff It's very good news.
Eddie But let's see if we can - let's see if we can push that boundary (Jeff laughs) and you can do a little...you put this together...
Jeff Where - where's the tape?
Eddie Oh, I thought you had it.
Jeff No. Here it is. Right here.
Eddie Alright. Let 'er rip and then we'll go to this thing called Mad Season. Oh, yeah, this is - this is what...
Jeff a dialogue...
Eddie this is what Henry Miller - who's this star, this tape? Who are the stars of this tape?
Jeff Henry Miller, Noam Chomsky, Tom Waits, Iggy Pop.
Eddie You could've just, first...
Jeff Veruca Salt.
Eddie Iggy...Iggy, Tom, Veruca, Henry. Okay.
Jeff Stars.
Eddie Let's go for it.
Song Jeff's tape

(Tape plays)

The laughter, you say, is the most important thing. Not at others but at yourself, huh? That's the great thing.

***

Let's look at the way the media operate, the way the public relations industry operates, the extensive thinking that's been going on for a long, long period about the necessity for finding ways to marginalize and control the public in democratic society.

***

(from Willa Wonka) (sung by Veruca Salt) ...donuts and fruit cake with no nuts so good you could go nuts...

Veruca's father: you can have all those things when you get home.

Veruca Salt (sung): No, now. No, now (repeat).

I want a...

father: (?)

Veruca Salt (sung): Now. I want the world. I want the whole world. I want to lock it all up in my pocket. It's my bar of chocolate. Give it to me now. I want...

***

I look as the man that I am. The confused man. The negligent man. The lusty, obscene, boisterous, thoughtful, scrupulous, lying, diabolically truthful man that I am.

***

It's been accumulated about the way the major media, the sort of agenda-setting media - in the national press, the television and so on - the way that they shape and control the kinds of opinions that appear, the kinds of information that comes through, the sources to which they go, and so on. And I think that (Jade ?) will find some very surprising things about the democratic system...

***

...language and human cognition demonstrate, to me at least, what remarkable creativity ordinary people have. The very fact that people talk to one another is a reflection - just in a normal way, I don't mean anything particularly fancy - reflects deep-seated features of human creativity which, in fact, separate human beings from any other biological system we know.

***
Eddie Alright. We're gonna go to Lane and Mike and Olga - and Mad Season is the name of the deal. (laughs) And it's gonna maybe be released in March - not until March - so if you've got your tape player recording, you're lucky. Or, you know, if you don't have it, you're unlucky. Or, you know, get your tape player going and you'll be fine. This is Mad Season.
set Mad Season
song Lifeless Dead
song I Don't Know Anything
Song Jeff's Tape with Tom Waits and Iggy Pop
Song Jeff's tape with a hilarious exchange between Iggy Pop and Tom Waits

Iggy: Wow. Almost forgot. Listen, I worked with this drummer the other day.

Tom: Yeah. Really?

Iggy: And this guy, man, his name's Giant Robo.

Tom: Yeah.

Iggy: And he clanging and banging and - really hard. Man, I thought of you. I mean, maybe you wanna - this is somebody, I think you oughta check him out.

Tom: Oh, really? You mean - you think I need a professional drummer? Like, I'm not good enough? What are you talking about?

Iggy: No. No. But I'm just - you know - it's a musician. I thought - I just wanted to tell you about this guy. It'd be great, man. I mean - you know, it's like hard and industrial and he's beating, you know and I just thought...wow.

Tom: Well, you know, what - what are you trying to tell me? I need a drummer? I could use a drummer? Because I'm not - my drumming on my record sucks? What are you saying?

Iggy: (pause). Ah, forget it, man. Forget it.

Jeff Um, That was my friend Tom and Iggy - they're my friends. That was an excellent performance by Mad Season. I'm really looking forward to hearing the rest of the record. Mike actually played me a couple of weirder songs and, um, I though it was really nice. Um, this is a song that some of my friends - kinda an eclectic group of friends - Robbie Robb, friend of mine from South Africa, and Cary and Richard and this amazing keyboard/bongo player named Amos. So, here's a song called "Solitude" by Jungle Oats.
Song "Solitude" - Jumble Oats (later renamed Three Fish)
Jeff We have a song coming by another band that's a ... too unknown, with a non-LP song called "President's Test".
Song "The President's Test for Physical Fitness" - American Music Club
Jeff I already told you that that was American Music Club, but Eddie wanted me to say that again anyways, so...
Eddie I'll take the mic. I think you might be getting tired of hearing my voice, but it's a necessity to get from one song to the next right now and, I'll tell you what, I'll address the issue of phone calls. We're still kind of chock full of music here so we're gonna keep going with this. And uh, this is another rare...well, this is a rare opportunity to play this stuff to ya. It's two songs by Dave Grohl. As far as I know, he's played everything on these songs. He's playing all the instruments. He played it to me a while back. We ended up recording a song or two with Mike Watt. And uh, we might give speaker phone calls, and I think we might make a couple calls out before we take any in. And uh, I think we're gonna try to call Watt down in Pedro and, uh, I'm gonna just let these Dave Grohl songs fly. They're just...they're really good.
Song "Gas Chamber" - Dave Grohl
other (Radio London) Wonderful Radio London - Whoopee!
Song "Exhauseted" - Dave Grohl
Song "Pain In My Heart" - Babes In Toyland
Eddie Ahh. That's a ... that's ... if ever you hear that song, that's Babes In Toyland. I remember listening to that song. I had it on ... Beth brought it on cassette or something on we were driving somewhere. I think we escaped somewhere. Maybe it was one of our first escapes a long time ago and we were in some car and the top was down in some beautiful place, but we're cranking this kinda heavy tune and I just remember just wanting to like jump of a ...ya know ...take the car off a cliff (2 people laugh) die in that moment. It was a good moment. But we were just talking about that out in the yard here we were just talking about listening to a song in a certain place and uh, this is Kim from the Fastbacks here. Steve Turner's here too. But you said you had Dave Grohl's tape. With you and you were where?
Kim We went to Guatemala for Christmas. I brought it with me and it was just really awesome to hear that on top of these pyramids and (Steve: (laugh)). Because it is such a great song. "This is a Call" is the name of the song. And it was such an amazing place to see the jungle and hear that music. It was really great.
Eddie Yeah. It doesn't'...listening to music outside for some reason, it just kinda challenges things.
Kim Especially when...I hadn't really listened to much music when you were down there. I mean it was the only cassette I brought with me. And that should say how much I like it.
Eddie Lucky you. Now Steve, you had a ...we were just commenting on the genius of Dave Grohl's record. (Dave Grohl). And you had a ... and you had a comment.
Steve Um, the genius started long a go in "Dain Bramage" (everyone laughs) that would be the band he was in about '86 or so.
Eddie Now obviously, we feel totally comfortable about bringing this up and (Steve: yeah.)(Krist: I'm sure he's psyched about it) because he's so fucking good now. (Steve: yeah) What can you say?
Steve He started off good, he kept getting better.
Eddie cool.
Krist That's a good thing.
Eddie Well, speaking of, if I look in the house, the next band is ready to play and the next band is uh well it's Chris, Kim, Matt and Ben of Soundgarden. So, they're gonna play some songs for ya and I hope you enjoy them.
set Soundgarden
Song Blind Dogs
Song Fell on Black Days
Song Kyle Petty, Son of Richard
Song No Attention
Song Bass tuning tape
Song "Do Me" by the Frogs
Eddie Well, uh, I bet you like that. That's the Frogs. Jimmy from the frogs. I was thinking of calling his brother Denis in Milwaukee. Um, we'll try doing that. Krist Novaselic is here; he's sitting next to me. We're gonna try to call Denis. Then we're gonna try and call Mike Watt... so let me uh...Krist, you have anything to say while I find Denis' number here.
Krist Clear thought. What am I gonna say? Well, everybody looks all happy and healthy tonight. It's really nice seeing people who are hanging out. And it's really really wonderful....
Eddie (laughing) Just so ya know.
Krist It's like a community thing.
Eddie And you actually mean that (Krist: yeah) Sometimes you can sound sarcastic.
Krist Yeah, cynical. But I'm trying to overcome my cynicism. I don't want be...
Eddie Yeah, it's really neat to hear. That's pretty neat.
Kim It's fantastic. It's community
Eddie So let's uh. We're gonna spread, we're gonna make our community wider. We're gonna try to call our friend Denis in Milwaukee. Oh, do I... I need to press this in. hush. (Hitting buttons and it sounds like he's cheming on a straw - ugh! gross!) Is this working? This is the first phone call we've tried (Krist: uh oh). So uh, give us a second. Try it again? Ok, I'm dialing now and you can't hear this.
Krist (singing) "Dialing for dollars is trying to find me"
Eddie (Imitating a generic DJ) We've got uh, we've got 86 from the top and 13 from the bottom if you're the uhh...
Krist Oh me, me!
Eddie Hey Denis. Denis?
Denis How's it goin?
Eddie Alright, good, are you listening?
Denis Yeah.
Eddie We just played Jimmy's song. It sounded good uh, you've got a ... you've got a um.... Are the kids asleep?
Denis Yeah.
Eddie Can you play this thing loud enough so we can hear?
Denis Yeah, it's all cued.
Eddie Cool, so this is uh, do you have a name for this yet? You see, Denis, well he actually just played me this song on the phone the other day and I uh, and I begged him to play it for everybody. So uh, we'll do that if you can play it. What's this? Does it have a title? (dead silence for about 3 seconds) ... "Johnny?"
Denis Yeah, I was making the people wait. It's a "Johnny get out of my jidge"
all (laugh)
Eddie Ok, let's hear it.
Denis Ok.
Song "Johnny get out of my jidge" by Dennis from the Frogs
Eddie Wow!
Krist Those kids have nothing on Yoko Ono. (Ed: laugh) or she doesn't have nothin on them.
Denis Thank you man, what...
Eddie Hey Denis, thanks.
Denis Thank you man.
Eddie It was great. Ah, just know, another radio hit goin' out the masses.
Krist How things been hanging Jim? (correcting himself) Denis?
Denis What's that?
Krist Hey Denis, it's Krist Novaselic.
Denis Hi, how's it goin?
Krist Got your letter.
Denis Yeah.
Krist Thanks.
Denis Thank you.
Krist Alright.
Denis We got to ...we got to take the cow for a walk in a little...a little while.
Eddie Hey Denis, you don't have any of that Wesley Willis stuff lying around do you?
Denis Um. If I could find it. I do. You want it?
Eddie Actually yeah. I mean, you know. Wesley Willis his whole repertoire is a...we'll take anything.
Denis Here it is. This is a uh. I'm hearing the delay downstairs. What's it called ... "They Threw Me Out of Church".
Song "They threw me out of church" by Wesley Willis
Denis Can you handle it?
Eddie Ah man. Well I could, you know he's one of my favorites. Just the fact that you know that really happened and that his lyrics are honest. That's all I want in music. An honest lyric? Well, we're gonna try and call Watt on the phone.
Denis "Watt?" (jokingly, as in "what?")
all (laugh)
Krist (Imitating Dennis) What?
Denis I'm just warming up. I was a little nervous before but uh, you know.
Eddie Well uh, I'll call you tomorrow. Just be you and me.
Denis Ok.
Eddie Ok, see you Denis.
Denis Bye.
Eddie Goodnight. Ok, so let's uh. Let's call Watt and play some songs off this record (somone off mic: What?) (Ed flipping through a book).
Krist Off, that's the off button on the phone.
Eddie Oh, on the phone. Ok, so uh, Watt's number is...hey Krist, you have something to say while I ...(laughing)
Krist You sure Mike's awake right now? I called him. (Ed: No, I...) I think I called him the other night and he wanted 5 words about his record. I called at midnight and he goes "Watt goes to bed at nine".
Eddie Right I know.
Krist 'Cause he gets up at dawn.
Eddie That's right, I know. Well he told me he was gonna stay up.
Krist He's gonna stay up. His eyes are kinda bloodshot. (Ed: Stay up late) he's like "uhhhhh". He's got some kinda jet lag.
Eddie Well he was looking for those 5 words for like the ... for vinyl.
Krist Oh, I got em too. "Many bands make tight work".
Eddie Wow this would be like...about Minutemen? (not getting it Krist's little saying).
Krist Well, like yeah... the bands, but also like you "band" something up with a bander (ed getting it. ohhhh.) You'd make a "tight work". You know it's also like "bands", you know? Since this project there's so many bands and personnel.
Eddie So many people. And we're going to talk to him about that. But that's. ... And he was asking for secret messages. Because they go on... I don't know if.... We're going to talk to you about vinyl for a second. Because vinyl, there's little secret codes on the inside of vinyl.
Krist We had one on our first single we did with Nirvana with "Love Buzz" and it was. "You should trade in those guitars for shovels!". I mean, that's what my.... we were practicing in our garage and my dad walked in and told that to us.
Eddie That was the quote.
Krist (Imitating his dad) Yeah. "You should trade in those guitars for shovels" he's a machinist work ethic. Labor-union-type person.
Eddie Well, isn't that like...now you own shovels and guitars.
Krist I got picks and pitchforks, pickeroos, all types of implements, hose, rakes made of hickory handles made out of good hard hickory wood.
Eddie No slivers
Krist No slivers. Yeah, smooth and strong (woo voice) "smooth and strong"
Eddie Speakin' of smooth and strong. Maybe we'll give old, calm Mike Watt a call (Ed: There you go.) We're gonna try call Mike down in a ... oh there's another band setting up by the way. I don't know who it is and we're going to take calls later. In fact before we call Watt, let me address the issues that it's 10.26 and we uh. And we told the radio stations three hours, three hours of time and that might be what they cleared out and by the way, too, we heard that some of the radio stations were saying that we were in their city and in their station actually. I think that happened in Los Angeleez and somewhere else (Krist: Phony baloney.) I just wanted to clarify that we are in Seattle. (Krist: Right.) Let's uh, give a call to Pedro. And anyways, we're reaching that 10:30 point and I know that ... I know that uh ... there's at least one more band that's gonna play and we have some more satellite time so we might lose some of you but we're gonna keep playing here. And uh. I think um. I'll take calls here after we play. We're gonna play one more time.
Krist You can always shove Dr. Dimento back a couple of hours. All you programmers listening to this so uh....
Eddie There you go, kris. I've taken Krist's advice and it's done nothing but positive things for my life.
Krist Let's call uh...(hitting buttons) ... that's uh "on" ..."out"..."on"...the bottom...and I can put this down? I don't here it ringing.
Watt Yeah, it's Watt.
Eddie Hey Watt.
Krist Hi Mike.
Eddie It's Eddie.
Krist It's Krist.
Eddie And Krist.
Watt What's up? Hey Eddie
Eddie We got the bass brotherhood going. I should get Lukin in here.
Krist Did you get the five words I told you? You were really groggy that night.
Watt Well, you know. I'm single (Ed: (laugh))...
Krist "Many bands..."
Watt Right, I had it carved inside.
Krist Alright.
Eddie You did. Now mine was kinda long. But you know, (Watt: It fit.) There's no way to shorten it. You use it?
Watt Nah, it fit all in. Little writing.
Eddie Wow, mine was "You can't change the strap on Dee Boone's hat" (Krist: Ohhh wow) because he gave me Dee Boone's had and I put it on and uh, (Watt: oh yeah) it fit, but we were in the truck and the window was open and I thought maybe I should just put it on tighter, so it didn't fall off, and you know, and then I though "No, no, you can't change the strap on Dee Boone's hat"
Krist It looked like you had a big head.
Eddie Well, it's almost the size of mine (laugh), (Watt: he's a big man) so there you have it.
Watt He's a big man. You know, you wouldn't...there's this delay, it's a trip.
Eddie (Simultaneously with Krist) Oh, turn your radio down Mike.
Eddie That's good to know you're listening anyway.
Watt Oh yeah, alright.
Eddie So, Watt, we're gonna play something off your record now, when's this...there's all kinds of things on this. When's it coming out?
Watt Feb. 7th.
Eddie Feb. seventh.
Watt Yep. Well, you know.
Eddie And it's comin' out on vinyl for sure.
Watt Yah, blue.
Eddie Blue vinyl.
Watt They look like germ circles.
Eddie Yeah, yeah.
Krist Oh wow. Germ blue, that's a shade.
Eddie Speaking of the Germs, Pat...
Watt If we're gonna wear 'em on TV, we should put 'em out on vinyl. Germ circles.
Eddie And speaking of that, Pat Smear sings a song.
Watt Yeah, he does. Great. An old Minutemen song.
Eddie that's uh, "For Every One Reporter's Opinion" right?
Watt Yeah.
Eddie I've got it right in front of me, so I know.
Watt Well, hook's to doe(?) song, the Minutemen was the second part with Pat.
Eddie Oh, that's right.
Watt Pat tripled up on himself.
Eddie Well we were uh, we were kinda running late and that's no big deal, we're gonna just keep goin and whoever wants to stick with us can stick with us, and whoever doesn't can miss out. But uh... there's just tons of ...there's so many people on this... there's a lot of people that are playing on this record...you're playing with a log of friends, and I bet....
Watt Big match.
Eddie That' right, well, the name of the record's "Ball Hog or Tugboat" but you said you called it your wrestling record (Watt: yeah). Wrestling, because uh....
Watt Or "The Petri Dish something like that.
Eddie "Get in the Ring with Watt".
Watt Right, "Chemistry Set".
Eddie And there's all kinds of people, I bet if you ... the length of time you've known all these people, if you added them all up, I bet you'd be eligible for retirement.
Watt Yeah, hard guard.
all (Laughing)
Eddie Should we ...should we play...should we play...
Watt I'm really grateful for them, all the contenders that helped me with that.
Eddie Ahh, yeah, well. The contenders would say the same. Without gettin' too mushy, do you want to play a song?
Watt Sure.
Eddie Let's try, let's try "Big Train" and maybe stay on the line and we'll talk to you more.
Watt Yep.
Eddie Ok.
Watt Thank you.
Eddie This is off a record that's gonna come out called "Ballhog or Tugboat". This is Mike Watt's dilemma. The first song is "Big Train". Might take a second here. Here we go...
Song "Big train" - Mike Watt
Watt (Laughing) I thought we were playing Carla's songs.
Eddie Oh, no.
Watt I got the whole song over the phone here.
Eddie Oh good, no, Carla...
Watt We're talking and it didn't sound like anybody could hear.
Eddie Carla...no, uh, I couldn't. I was trying to see if I could talk to you during the (Watt: It's too much) it made you listen to the song, though. How do you feel about it now, it's been like a month or a few weeks.
Watt Over the phone...
all (Laughing)
Krist Fiber optics
all (Laughing)
Krist You will... (imitating a phone operator) "You will hear Mike Watt."
Watt Wow, I wasn't ready for that.
Krist "You will..." it's like that AT&T commercial: "Whoever you are, some phone company..."
Watt It was like 4 minutes long, I don't think...
Krist That's not a pop single.
Watt No...It's a trip.
Eddie Well that was uh...
Watt The way I guess heard music when I was a kid. In those little close-and-play type. (Ed: Wow) They spilled grape juice, him and his brother. They go bellig(erent) and spilled grape juice all over the Creedence record.
all (Laughing)
Eddie On his close-and-play
Watt That's what it sounded like...anyway.
Eddie Well that was uh...
Watt Thanks for sending me back a few years...wow.
Eddie Um. That uh ... I guess Dave. Uh. Most of that was recorded up here. Wasn't it? Seattle. (Watt:Yeah it was) I mean I was there.
Watt Yep. I guess, yeah. In three different towns. Frankenstein.
Eddie Oh, because...
Watt The Cookwood brothers did it here, and Mascis did ...
Eddie and Jay Mascis did it in New York, and Dave Grohl did it here and I played some guitar up here.
Watt Right, In Bob Lang's hole.
Krist Bob's bunker.
Watt I got to learn about Seattle. It was really nice. But, most of it. There was no rain. We were like 40ft under his house with all the marble. And uh... yeah. Krist on the Farfeesa.
Krist I was playing the Farfeesa.
Eddie That was Farfeesa on the other song..."(Against) the Seventies".
Watt I think he came right after that.
Eddie Yeah, that was a nice day. Well, it's a nice day here, too, Watt.
Watt I never played with a Farfeesa.
Krist It's like Blondie.
Watt That whole thing, I never really drank wine in a long time.
Krist Oh, that's right, all that wine. (High voice) Wine, wine, wine!
Watt I'm glad we got recording. One big A-chord. Usually I use D-chords.
Krist You were talking about pentatonic scales and the Masons and five-pointed stars (Watt: Oh, right) This big conspiracy thing.
Watt Uh-huh.
Eddie Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Krist That was the mood. If you want to know the mood of the session. It was red wine and heavy conspiracy.
Eddie Fouculus Pendulum.
Krist Whose pendulum?
Eddie foculus?
Krist Foculus?
Watt A bomber went down at 3:33 or something. 3:23, 2:23 ...
Eddie Hey Watt, I've been reading this book. How do I say the name? fockuluts
Watt Focallus
Eddie Focallus pendulum. Ok. Well, we know we're gonna go way over if we start talking about focult's pendulum with you (Krist laughs, Watt: that's true). Let's um. We're gonna go to that thing that Kathleen...uh, I don't know her but uh (Watt: Olympia) I've seen a lot of the things that she's doin' obviously. And uh, kinda right up a...it's a good alley anyway. But uh, she's ...she's gonna be on this record actually in a way shape or form.
Watt She's the estrogen balance...ballast.
all (Laughing)
Eddie We're gonna play that. And then uh...I'm gonna say goodbye to you now. We're gonna play that. And then uh, and then uh. Krist is gonna do something and then we're gonna move on. So uh. Thanks for staying up late.
Watt Yeah, no problem. Krist, Eddie, thanks.
Eddie Ok, see you. Goodnight, Watt.
Watt All you guys there.
Krist Goodnight, Mike.
Eddie Alright. Out. Uh, let's see if we can find this little head. Just go in there. We're goin to cassette?
Song Kathleen Hanna
Tape Kathleen Hanna's voice message on Mike Watt's answering machine. (trascription coming soon)
other (Han Solo from Star Wars "You know, sometimes I amaze even myself"
other (Also from Star Wars as the rebel fleet is approaching the Death Star) "This is it!"
Eddie Uh, that was Kathleen Hanna, this is Crunt.
Song "Black Heart" by Crunt
Eddie Alright. That was Crunt. And this is Krist Novaselic with surprise, surprise.
Krist Ok, here I go. This is uh ... I'm writing a book about a guy who's trying to overcome his cynicism. An uh, this is I guess the first chapter.
Krist A reading from his book.
Krist That's it.
other (The same Han Solo bit as before) "You know, sometimes I amaze even myself"
Krist Well, there you go. I just want to say that I'm more into Jesus than I am St. Paul (laugh). And uh...
Eddie Hey oh. Thanks. That was. I think we all appreciated that.
Krist Thank you for having me, Eddie.
Eddie Ok, back to radio land (whisper) That's It. Is he on this date tonight?
Krist There's a jam goin on in there (the band room). They're live.
Eddie Go to it. Go to live.
comment (Closing notes of a jam)
Krist Oh, they just ended the jam (laughing) Jeff is laughing, so is Mike.
Eddie Are you with us?
Cary Stay with us.
Eddie Well, we're trying to get to the room, but we can't.
Cary You want to go to the room?
other "It's smooth sailing..."
Eddie Well, now they just ended.
Krist There we go. It's smooth sailing (laugh)
Eddie Go to the DAT. It's smooth sailing...
other "It's smooth sailing with the highly successful sound of wonderful Radio London.
Song "Tattoo" - The Who
other "Radio London reminds you, go tot the church of your choice"
Eddie Alright. Hey, the guys are playing without me in the room. So uh, that song is dedicated to the person who's our official new drummer. And uh, it's Jack Irons. That one goes out to him. And uh. There's some noise going on in the house. It's everybody in the band except me.
song (Over some blues, somebody's singing (Krist?) - or screaming with sarcasm, that is) Roadhouse blues ... Oh shit, my cellular phone went out, awwwww, can't call Microsoft ... (Ed: (softly) Are you back with me?). Laurelhurst... Laurelhurst ... Laurelhurst ... Laurelhurst! Laurelhurst! Laurelhurst!!!! Oh, you're all so fine and white (Ed:Hah. Did you hear that?) Laurelhurst! I wanna belong to the beach club! I wanna belong to the beach club! I wanna belong to the beach club! That's where all the beautiful people are, in the Laurelhurst beach club! Laurelhurst! Laurelhurst! Laurelhurst! (Jam ends)
Eddie Alright. Well, that's what they would be without me. Sounds pretty good. I think I'm gonna quit and move to Costa Rica. I think they'll be just fine. Uh, that was cool. I was gonna make a couple of phone calls. Uh, but ... The energy, uh... Maybe I should just get in there and play. Um. Come back, will ya? Well, it's 11 o'clock Seattle time. Again, we're broadcasting from Seattle. It's been really nice from the secret spot and no one's hassled us. So uh, we've had a great time. Everyone's just having a really good time. I hope you are too. And uh, we're a half-an-hour over officially. We're gonna keep... I'm gonna go in. We'll play some songs. And then uh, maybe I'll make a couple of phone calls and take a couple of phone calls after this. So uh. I'll just leave you with something hear.
other Bass tuning tape
set Pearl Jam Set:Last Exit
Blood
Tremor Christ
Porch
Indifference
Song "Zero Zero Zero One" and "Magnog" - Hovercraft
Eddie Alright. (Laugh) Well hey. Back from playing. There gonna cut us off in a little bit. So I'm gonna tell you who that was. That was hovercraft. And uh. Magnum. And uh. Kinda a cleansing of the palette there. Uh. We hope you had a super cool time. We actually had a great time here. Uh. Really cool vibe in this tiny place. It would've been great to have y'all here. You know, like attend. And get beer out of the keg and all that. But you know I guess (laugh) you got as close to it as you good. Hopefully. I hope you had a good time. Anyway. I'm gonna talk a little bit about what we're gonna be doin' next week. And uh, I might even try and make a phone call to uh...Cause Dee from L7, the drummer from L7 is in town. She's actually over at Krist's house. She said she was gonna come tonight. But uh, she's been out every night. I think last night they saw Wool. The night before uh we were over at Matt Lukin's house - that you heard play bass before with Mudhoney. Blah, blah, blah. Namedropping! I'm dropping Matt Lukin's name. Let's see if we can get a hold of Dee, I don't' know if she knows we're calling. Do I press this out button or on? Bottom one on?
Shelley Hello?
Eddie Hey shelly.
Shelley Yeah?
Eddie I don't want to embarrass you cause we're on the radio but is Dee there?
Shelley Yeah, just a second.
Eddie (To himself) Hope she's not...hope she's not asleep.
Dee Hello?
Eddie Hey Dee.
Dee Hey
Eddie Did you uh go to bed already?
Dee What?
Eddie Did you go to bed tonight?
Dee I'm just reading.
Eddie Wow uh...
Dee Yeah.
Eddie I got to tell you we're on the radio.
Dee We are? (Laugh)
Eddie Yeah, I just thought I'd call. I was gonna talk.... We went over a little bit. We were supposed to end a little early but I was going to talk about that thing we were doing in D.C.
Dee Yeah. It's gonna be great. Constitution Hall.
Eddie it's for voters for choice (right) and the date is uh. Well actually it's two shows, the 14th and 15th in Washington D.C. at Constitution Hall (Dee: Yeah) I think it's been sold out. I think they did tickets by mail order or something. We're still trying to figure out a way to distribute tickets equally and uh make everybody...you know, we don't want to upset anybody, but uh it's gonna be your band L7 of which you ...you'll play drums. You usually play drums.
Dee I usually play drums for L7, yes, but (Ed: And what happened?) I won't be playing those two shows because.
Eddie (Sarcastically) Cause you don't agree with the issue or what?
Dee Uh, yeah, no, that's not it, um...
Eddie I don't think that's it (laugh)
Dee I'm waiting for my new set of hands. My bionic hands (Ed: That's right you're um) I'm having hand transplants.
Eddie Yeah actually I saw.... well I told you I saw Dee the other night and she's got uh...she looks like a recovering suicide ... failed suicide attempt.
Dee Yeah I get a lot of attention.
Eddie (laughing) Yeah, so...
Dee Um, but uh, Dan Peters of Mudhoney will be sitting in for me.
Eddie Alright, so Dee's got scars on her wrist cause she just got carpal tunnel surgery. So she can't play, but she's till gonna play there (Dee: Right) and Dee is the poster girl for Rock For Choice (laugh) that's her silhouette you see on the t-shirt that ...or the sign that you'll see.
Dee And again, Dan Peters from Mudhoney will be sitting in for me.
Eddie Which is well, super cool.
Dee So I know it's gonna be a great show.
Eddie And uh...
Dee And of course you guys open the night.
Eddie We're playing and uh.
Dee Neil.
Eddie Neil Young.
Dee Then there's gonna be us.
Eddie And the whole band like Crazy Horse is gonna be playing too. So uh, it's super cool. Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna actually try to call ...someone gave me Neil's Young...um young Neil's number. Yeah, so I'm gonna I'm gonna give him a ring and uh ... (Dee:okay) Thanks for lettin us uh...
Dee Tell him I said "hello".
Eddie I will, yeah. You'll uh...have you guys met?
Dee Yeah. Kinda. Quickly.
Eddie Was you on the same bill or something?
Dee No, he came to Lollapalooza. He was...(Ed:hmmm)...checkin us out on the side of the stage and I talked to him afterwards.
Eddie Wow.
Dee But briefly, just like a "Hello".
Eddie Yeah, he's alright. Well, let's see if he's home and I'll bid you goodnight. (Dee:Alright, well um I'll...) and I'm I gonna... You're leaving in the morning or something aren't huh?
Dee I'm leaving tomorrow night.
Eddie Okay.
Dee So um, if you want you know. We may hook up with Beth for lunch, so uh, just come along.
Eddie Okay. Well we'll be here at the Royal. Actually we're gonna be answering ...(laugh) and we're answering...we'll be answering phone calls.
Dee Tomorrow afternoon.
Eddie Tomorrow afternoon. We owe it to everybody out there. (Dee: Ah...) we'll be answering calls for a while. (Dee: Okay) We didn't do them on the air, but.
Dee Well then I'll see you.
Eddie Maybe stop by before you go home.
Dee Alright.
Eddie Okay.
Dee Take care.
Eddie Okay.
Dee Bye.
Eddie Goodnight Dee. I hate to get all personal on you and do all this stuff, but let's uh. Let's uh let's just try to call Neil.
Cary Press "off".
Eddie Did I do it right? All "off"? And then "on".
Cary No, then it's "off".
Eddie Number. Sorry guys.
Cary It's ok
Eddie One...no, you guys are ok. People listening. (Ed actually audibly mumbles his number - good move Ed.) XXX-XXX-XXXX. Ok, now I turn "on" or something. Like that? ring...
Eddie Getting good at it. ring... ring...
Eddie You know what? It's like... Uh ... It's almost midnight west coast time. ring...
Eddie Maybe I shouldn't bug him. I'll let it ring one more time. ring...
Eddie ehhhhhhhhhhh... one more time. ring...
Eddie (laugh) Okay. Well, uh, well we're gonna see Neil next week uh. Like I said. You know, I don't uh ... I shouldn't get heavy on you before we go, but I'll read you a couple things.

First of all, one of the ... uh ... affiliates in this thing called Voters for Choice. Uh, it's a little different than Rock for Choice is uh ... Gloria Steinem. Uh. I've read a lot about her, and uh just knowing her work with Ms. magazine. Uh I don't know if you've ever noticed when you pick up a magazine like Rolling Stone or Spin uh. Boy you can ... you can count the pages that you've spent your hard-earned money on in advertisement. Before, that's how I kinda read magazines. You know, I pick them up and count the pages of ads before the first article. You know, give me some text. And I want to know, you know .... How few and far between it is. And ideally I like a very dense magazine, you know. But anyways, Rolling Stone, or uh even Spin, you know, fine people ... (laugh) 20 pages, 23 pages ... I think was one of the Rolling Stone ones. They're gonna be very upset, but no this is the truth. And uh. Uh. They can talk to me about it or whatever they want. Uh. But you look at a magazine like Ms., and Gloria Steinem and some other people started this thing. And there are no advertisements in Ms. magazine. Um. One of the ... probably the main reason isn't just to be cool. Uh, it's because if you have ... uh. Let's say you have a ... I'm just gonna throw out a name, not to get in trouble but let's say you have an agreement with Chanel to run some ads and they, uh, write you after they see an article about lesbians in your magazine. In your Ms. magazine. And they say "We're not very comfortable with you using the word 'lesbian', talking about 'lesbian'." I shouldn't have said Chanel because it could have been anybody. I don't know if it was them. I'm just ... It could have been, you know, Heinz ketchup or whatever. But they - the advertisers - call and let people know they're very uncomfortable with this, And that they won't advertise in your magazine if they continue to keep talking about "lesbians", for example. And this is the reality. This is reality. We all have to deal with it and educate ourselves. And this whole contradiction between not educating ourselves and yet at the same time expecting.... What is it? Celibacy? Or ... uh ... um. "Just say no?" It's gotta be education. You know, we have to have educated people out there, and from a young age. And they're gonna learn about this stuff one way or another. And they might as well be educated to make a correct decision when the when the dilemma comes up ... when the issue comes up.

Anyways, I'm gonna go ahead and read you uh...a memo from Voters for Choice. Now this was written on December 30, 1994, from Julie Burton, who's the national director. I'm just gonna read it here. You can turn this off if you want or whatever. It's no big deal. I'm not preaching. I don't give a fuck. I'm just gonna read it.

"I can't believe it happened again. How much do we have to bear? And the sad thing is it's not going away. There are fanatics out there who will stop at nothing including murder to force their views on us all. Today ..."(aside: Again, this is December 30) "Seven people were the victims of yet another brutal anti-choice attack. Two women are dead, five are wounded. The assassin entered the (Ed pauses and breathes disparagingly) assassin entered the Planned Parenthood Clinic of greater Boston shortly after 10 AM, pulled a 22-caliber semi-automatic rifle from a duffle bag, killed the receptionist and wounded three other people. He continued the carnage a mile down the road at the Pre-Term Health Services Clinic where he killed one person and wounded two more. The women killed today join an ever growing list of individuals assaulted for providing critical - and legal - health services to women. Dr. David Gunn, murdered, shot in the back 3/10/93. Dr. George Tiller, attempted murder, shot in both arms, 8/19/93. Dr. John Britton, murdered, shot in the head, 7/29/94. James Barrett, murdered, died escorting Dr. John Britton, 7/29/94. June Barrett, attempted m-murder, widowed and wounded, 7/29/94 (aside: That was her husband that was killed). And Dr. Gary Romales, attempted murder, shot in the legs, 11/8/94."

(Pausing) That's besides the, uh, the seven people last week or whenever it was -- a week and a half ago.

"How many more victims will there be before patients, personnel, and doctors won't have to face the intimidation of terrorists? Pro-Choice forces long have contended that there is a national strategy of murder within the Pro- Anti-Choice community. Recently we discovered a "how-to terrorist handbook" - the third edition in three years published by the Army of God and distributed nationally. The book provides step-by-step instructions on how to assault clinics with bombs, chemical agents and other violent means. Since it was first published, attacks on clinics have tripled. Many Anti-Choice leaders continue to refuse to take responsibility for their rhetoric and the violence it encourages. (aside: If you can listen close to this part.) Operation Rescue's Reverand Pat Mahoney blamed today's violence on the freedom of access to clinic entrances law (aside: That's the Face Law) for opening the doorway to vigilante actions by harassing and intimidating peaceful process...protesters. As you know the Face Law is the only law on the books to protect family planning clinics from violence. The solution is not to take away the one small protection of afforded clinics."

What they're saying is that by protecting them they're ... they're urging them to protest in a more violent way. By...by not letting them walk in the front door, they're saying that they create a more violent situation on the sidewalk. hmmm

"Now ..."

I'm gonna go back to this

"Now more than ever..."

Well, let me go back.

The solution is not to take away the one small protection of afforded clinics, but to expand and add to it. That's what we just talked about. "Now more than ever, we must fight the conservative tide that has taken over Congress. We must elect progressive leaders who will vote for federal funding of U.S. Marshalls at all clinics... (aside: This is our ... we're protecting what we voted for (exasperated laugh) who will push for more clinic protections and who will advocate better and swifter investigations of anti-choice criminal extremists."

Um, it's kinda heavy. I mean, you know we're having a good time on the radio and whatever, but it's good to take care of this stuff and you guys should know. And uh anyway here was a quote from Gloria. Actually this was a ...a note and it said: "Gloria hadn't heard about the shootings until she got my note yesterday." Good thing we did. Here's her quote.:

"Nothing could be more clear..." ... and this, this takes it to another level so if you're still with me, then listen close. "Nothing could make more clear than this Massachusetts massacre than the deepest message of the anti-abortion movement ... the deepest message of the anti-abortion movement is not pro-life, but anti-women; not mutual respect, but terrorist control. These anti-abortion terrorists continue to show us what they will do. The question is what the U.S. government will do and its voters will do. When we finally make clear that the lives and freedom of women of all races are as important as the airlines, that the...World Trade Center and other targets that threaten male...uh male - as well as female - life and business as usual."

What they're saying is we've totally, you know... there was problems with the World Trade Center, we took care of it. When there were problems at the airlines with terrorist activity we took care of it. Nothing has been done so far. And there's there's... these these clinics are obvious targets. It goes on to say:

"Will crimes against women finally be taken as seriously as others? Until we see culprits punished and crimes prevented, every man and woman in America must make the protection of our community and our clinics a personal priority. If we have to stand guard outside their uh doors ourselves we must make sure this never happens again. I pledge myself to that end. I send my deepest sympathy to all who have suffered from this terrorism and my support to all who protect freedom in spite of it."

Well, there you have it. So we're gonna go play next week and see what we can do ... do a little press conference. You know. It's something we all ... it's just a right. We voted on it, it was taken care of and ...um I don't know, uh, it's hard stuff to think about. Well, I think we're uh...I think we're just about out of here. I'm gonna play one more song and say goodbye. Thanks for listening and we'll try to end it on a better note. But Jeff's right here. Wanna say goodbye?
Jeff Bye.
Eddie And uh.
Jeff Bye.
Eddie We heard it sounded really good from the room. We want to thank Mudhoney and the Fastbacks and uh. Even I thank Slant Six for.... I hope they're ok with me playing their record. And Crunt and Cat and every body and Soundgarden of course, Krist Novaselic, Dave Grohl for lettin me play his tape. Thank you for listening to my lame fucking voice for so long. Um. Did I miss anybody? Everybody ... mainly again, we heard the room sounded great and uh we just wanted to say thanks to Cary. Oh! and I'm gonna uh ... like I said, w-we'll answer phones tonight. And I'll answer them tomorrow and I'll answer them Tuesday. Uh. I'll spend some time just seeing how you guys are doing. 206-XXX-XXXX. Call me with your opinions, tell me what you think, tell me what you think of us talking about this kinda stuff. Tell em...tell me real stuff. Don't get all nervous when I pick up the phone. Okay?

Um. Again, I wanna go back and real quick ... sorry. Thank the crew. We couldn't have done it without them and uh all these radio stations pages of them. WNEW - New York, Pittsburgh, Utica, Dover, Pough(keepsie)...it goes on for a few pages. I don't know if any of them pulled out.

I'm talkin' too much, but uh, I just, it's not uh... we appreciate being able to broadcast to ya, so uh, hope you enjoyed it and we'll see you guys next time. See you in dc. Goodnight!
Song What a wonderful life - Louis Armstrong



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Show Was? Have?
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The Cast
People who stepped up to the mic during the broadcast.
Ed Vedder (Eddie)
Singer for Pearl Jam
Kim Warnick (Kim)
Singer/Bassists for The Fastbacks
Kurt Block (Kurt)
Drummer for The Fastbacks
Stone Gossard (Stone)
Pearl Jam Guitarist
Jeff Ament (Jeff)
Pearl Jam Bassist
Val Agnew (Val)
Drummer in Seven Year Bitch
Greta ??? (Greta)
Mark Arm (Mark)
Singer for Mudhoney
Steve Turner (Steve)
Guitarist for Mudhoney
Krist Novoselic (Krist)
Bassist for Nirvana
Denis Flemion (Denis)
From The Frogs
Jimmy Flemion (Jimmy)
From The Frogs
Mike Watt (Mike)
Formerly of The Minutemen
Cary ??? (Cary)
Techical Assistant
Donita Plakas (Dee)
Member of L7
Shelley Gossard (Shelley)
Stone Gossard's sister
Sunday, January 08, 1995
Leased Seattle Practice Space
Seattle, Washington, USA

First Set
Spin the Black Circle, Satan's Bed, Corduroy, Not For You, Immortality

Second Set
Last Exit, Blood, Tremor Christ, Porch, Indifference

Monkeywrench Links:
Five Horizons
Hard To Imagine


Saturday Night Special

"What the hell are they going to do for 4 hours?", you probably said. What is going on? Who's this new drummer? Who are Pearl Jam anymore? Following a year when the band nearly fell under the weight of social pressures, axed a drummer, and lost a musical compatriot, Pearl Jam had a lot to prove on the night of January 8, 1995. Or did they? On a night which included live performances, presentation of social issues, and great alternative music (real alternative, that is), Pearl Jam made their point that they didn't have to prove anything to anyone any longer.

Born from the extra satellite time of the April 3, 1994 concert where Ed played DJ and spun records for nearly an hour, "Self-Pollution Radio" was presented to the world via satellite to hundreds of radio stations. The magnificently unpolished night began with a timid Ed getting comfortable behind the mic, a few spins of wax, and a hot 5-song set by Pearl Jam themselves of songs off the most recent offering - Vitalogy. Ed seemed to settle down after that while enjoying the live sets by the Fastbacks, Mudhoney, Mad Season and Soundgarden. The tragic loss of The Gits' Mia Zapata was commemorated with a discussion about the organization Home Alive with members of Seven Year Bitch and Greta. Jeff and Stone grabbed the mic for awhile - Jeff showcasing his Three Fish work and Stone plugging his new record label Loosegroove. Krist Noveselic got a little long-winded for many, but his seriousness was later forgotten after phone calls with Dennis from the Frogs and Mike Watt. Finally, Ed wrapped up with some commentary on the state of a few issues that were on his mind, and ended with the ever hopeful "What a Wonderful World" by Louis Armstrong.

At a time when Pearl Jam had already bucked the system, they began 1995 by bucking it a little more. An ongoing battle with Ticketmaster would cause the 1995 U.S. Tour not to "self-pollute", but to truly throw a "monkeywrench" in the system. Self-Pollution Radio was a success to Pearl Jam, the bands and friends who attended, and the fans who listened and Pearl Jam realized that those people were the only people that mattered. As an introduction to one of their most trying years as a band, Pearl Jam certainly made their four hours of satellite time worthwhile.

Radio Show

This Self-Pollution broadcast was carried by major radio stations in nearly every major United States city. Various cassette or DAT tapes recorded by fans will undoubtedly have annoying station IDs inserted by the carrier. We believe there are a number of "pre-FM" sources - DAT tapes recorded from the satellite signal before it is run through the station board which adds signal compression and station IDs - circulating. These are the best versions of this show as they are generally uncut and have great sound. In close second are Radio Station promotional CDs. The sound will be great, but the also will include station IDs.

(Transcription by: Karen Bilotti, John Reynolds)

Song Aye Davanita
Eddie Hey. Am I on? Hey. Ho. Let's go. Uh, Self-pollution, air pollution, noise pollution, pre-pollution, post-pollution, face pollution, hair pollution, solution pollution. Uh, I don't think so. Not enough solutions to our many complex dilemmas these days.

So here we are broadcasting out from a little place here in Seattle. I don't know if we've got proven answers to any of the issues we might bring up tonight but perhaps you can take 'em home and sort 'em out. Think about how you feel.

Perhaps the beginning of change begins right in your head. Letting your attitudes evolve, and this evolution takes place when there's input.

And the reason we bring this up, well, we've noticed that our society here in America is opening up their homes to some folks who are overflowing with input, and we've seen potentially dangerous attitudes embraced and we're seeing blatant mistruths treated like the gospel, and we're just doing our little bit here...far from equal time...maybe to remind a few of you out there that you are not alone in your opposition and that you are not in the minority when you vote for change. Perhaps the silent majority is gonna have to make some noise.

I've never claimed to be a socio-political expert. I guess I feel compelled to speak out on some issues for no other reason than the fact that I've lived through them. You know, "live through this," well, I have.

And it's tough. It's tough out there and a lot of people are just trying to do their best to survive. And I think some of the situations being created, or that there are situations being created, that can make that impossible.

Again, I could sound like a politician and I'm not. I'm just a guy. And we've got politicians here. We've got musicians. All local neighbors and friends. And we're gonna play for you. They're gonna play for you. Live.

In fact, what you've just endured is probably the longest I'll speak all evening. A couple issues might resurface, like protection of women's reproductive rights, and even the safety of women in society - our mothers, our sisters, girlfriends, wives.

But everyone came to play. And I'm not gonna tell you, or divulge just yet, who is playing but I'd say you're pretty lucky.

We're glad you tuned in. We'll just spin records kind of in between the bands and make calls and take calls and Jeff and Stone will come through and it should be a real interesting night.

Anyways, I got a record player in front of me and I'm gonna start playing some songs.

I'm gonna play a song now that probably didn't get much airplay back in the day but it's off the Daydream Nation record by Sonic Youth and it's track one, side one and it's called "Teenage Riot."

Talk to you guys in a bit.
Song Sonic Youth - Teenage Riot
Song Slant Six - Don't You Ever
comment A song begins. Ed cuts it off after just a few notes.
Eddie I actually could have played the whole rest of the record. That was Slant Six.

I hope they don't mind me playing these songs. These are songs that maybe wouldn't be played on regular radio, all the time anyway. But that was "Don't You Ever" off the Dischord (?) record, again by Slant Six, "Soda Pop Rip-Off."

We're gonna go back, and I think we can go into this little house here. Explain the setup here. There's a little trailer and I'm in here with, like, a tape deck and a turntable. And then we got this little house. And the bands are kinda hanging out in the house and we got a room set up, so I think we're gonna go in there.

And I think we're gonna play first, first two songs and come back and play some more records, and then the bands are just gonna keep coming.

So I know we talked about taking phone calls but let's keep - you know - save your fingers for later. And right now we just got a lot of music to take care of.

And, why don't - I'll let you know later when and if we're gonna do that. We'll definitely do it, and we'll keep the lines open for, like, a couple days. And, you know, I'll take your calls tomorrow, or whatever. But, you know, I'll be around.

But let's do the music now. And this - speaking of the little house and how much fun we have in it - this song's, this song's like about having your first house, and it's by Klark Kent and it's called "Away from Home."

Let me put the needle on the record here.
Eddie Okay. That's the end of "Don't Care," and the next song is "Away from Home" and I'll - I'm gonna run in the house now, and I'll see you from there.
Song Klark Kent - Away from Home plays.
set Pearl Jam Set:
Song Spin the Black Circle
Song Satan's Bed
Song Corduroy
Song Not for You
Song Immortality
Song Daniel Johnston - Walking The Cow
Song Zeke - West Seattle Acid Party
Eddie Alright. Can you hear me here?
other Yes, you can.
Eddie Ah, hey. Well how is it? (laughs)

There's another band setting up in there right now and I'm gonna play you the B side of that single we just listened to - that was the A side, and it's called "West Seattle Acid Party" - and that's by a band called Zeke. And here's the B side, and it's called "Schmidt Rid"
Song Zeke - Schmidt Rid
Eddie (through a voice-altering device) You can love it.

You could've let that keep going, you know. We can do whatever we want for three hours. That's what they told us. That's what I heard. That's what we agreed to.

comment (Ed plays his and Beth's holiday messages)
Song Answering machine beeps: Hello Eddie and Beth. This is Dee, and I just wanted to sing you a little number. (singing) Jingle bell, jingle bell, jingle bell rock, hey, jingle bell road (?) (a man's voice takes over and he sings the tune of jingle bell rock in a seemingly inebriated manner).

(by the woman). Okay, I'm cutting Kirk off.

New answering machine segment, man's voice: Uh, I don't know if you fuckers are in town or not but Peters is having a little gathering for a little, little New Year's Eve, a little New Year's Eve party. Nothing, nothing huge, just a few people over to get drunk and fall down. But don't think you guys are in town, but just in case you are I thought I'd let you know.

Anyway. Yeah, I hope you had a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year and, whatever else, I'll continue hating the world and everybody else in it for the next year or two.

Hadn't started off too good, I went out to my recycling bin to take some shit out there and noticed that the neighbors have been filling their fucking shit - putting their shit in it. So I searched through all their fucking McDonald's sacks and I found a couple of envelopes with their address. So I think I'm just gonna wheel it down to their house and put it in their front yard, spread it in their front yard.

Anyway, I'll be talking at you guys later. Later.

New answering machine message (man's voice): And, well, yeah, Beth, I'm in L.A. so there's no more Seattle number for me right now. I'm here just wondering what I'm doing now because I put six months of hard work into nothing.

So, yeah I'm just kicking it, and, you know, just chilling out here in Los Angeles where the weather's not great and the people aren't either. But, that's cool. Hope you're having fun up there and everything's cool. And hope you had a good New Year's and all that. I got wasted and threw up under the table at a Mexican restaurant, it sucked. It was just, ah.

Alright, give me a call sometime and I'll tell you about my firing. They said I was too loud and - get this, I have it written on my board - too much of a risk taker.

New answering machine message (man's voice): Hey. What's up? It's Mike. It is Christmas Eve. I'm at home, my parents, about to fucking kill my family. It's fuckin', I hate my family.

Just calling up and trying to get ahold of someone. If you wanna talk to me when I'm drunk alone at home tonight you can. Call me there if you guys are up to it or, if not, don't even worry about it.

Have a good Christmas and talk to you soon. Bye.
Eddie (again through a voice altering device) (?)
Song
Song The Descendents - Silly Girl
Eddie Alright. That's, uh, Descendents. The "I Don't Want to Grow Up" album.

We're honored to have - humbled, honored, excited - the Fastbacks are here, and they're in the house and they're ready to play so let's let 'em play.
set Fastbacks:
Song On Your Hands
Song Run No More
Song Old Address of the Unknown
Kim Thank you.
Kurt Thanks. Thanks for having us.
Eddie Wow. Alright, so that's the Fastbacks and that's Kim and Lu Lu singing and Kurt - he sings too and plays guitar. And I'm - from where I am I can't see the drummer and they've changed drummers (laughs) before so I'm not, I'm not sure who it is. Last time it was a guy named Mike.

Anyway, here's Gas Huffer
Song Gas Huffer - More of Everything
Song John Hill (of King Missile) - A Little Restraint (spoken word) I was walking down 12th street, which was fun, past the (vacuum cleaner sound begins in the background) First Presbyterian Church where I used to go to Sunday school, which I still have pleasant memories of. I still don't think of those Sunday school years as fundamentalist brain-washing for the patriarchy.

So it was a pleasant stroll down 12th street til I came upon 6th Avenue and I saw this shithead getting out of his car. I could tell immediately that he was a shithead because the back of his t-shirt said, "As a former fetus, I oppose abortion."

My first instinct was to shout at him, "As a fellow former fetus, I wish you had been an abortion." But I let him walk on ahead of me because I'm not a violent man. I'm not a violent man but I could already picture myself jumping him from behind and punching him, and punching him until my knuckles and his face were a barely distinguishable bloodied, mangled mess.

So I figured, let him walk ahead of me. Get away from me. Get, get away from me. I don't even wanna look at you, you ugly, smarmy pig because I figure, what good would it do for me to get arrested for beating on this one guy so I could sit in jail while he continues to walk the streets, closing down clinics, shooting doctors, attacking women. Oh, don't get me started.

So, so, so I sat on a stoop for a minute or two til I cooled off and then I set fire to his car and just walked away feeling good about myself 'cause, for once in my life, I showed a little restraint.
Eddie Cool, that's John Hall. Is it John S. Hall?
Val John S. Hall.
Eddie And that's something called "A Little Restraint." And I'll talk more about that in a second.

It's been confirmed that it was a guy named Mike playing the drums. Mike Mussberger. He used to play with The Posies and that's - that fills up the lineup for the Fastbacks, which we heard before that.

And then there was Gas Huffer, and that's off of the One Inch Masters record.

Okay, we're gonna talk to ya in a second with something pretty important so, this is The Gits.
Song The Gits - Guilt Within Your Head
Eddie Alright. Well that's, that's a band called The Gits and it brings something up.

This is a pretty unique opportunity to be able to go on the radio like this and it - we appreciate you listening. Give you information on that, it's information that goes with that last song by The Gits and even the one spoken word thing before that and what they have in common is that they're gonna be on this thing called Home Alive, which is a compilation being put together here in Seattle, and the people who are putting it together are with me now so I thought we'd talk about it for a little bit and then maybe play another thing or two off it.

So, we have Val Agnew here, drummer from Seven Year Bitch and her friend, Greta, who they've worked together on this pretty tightly. And another guy who's helped out is Dave Meinert. And they're all sitting here right now.

I guess I'll just throw out a question or let you talk about it. I guess that - get into it, like this is kind of heavy - but I'll just bring it up. The singer in that last band that we listened to, The Gits, she's no longer with us. And, uh (laughs), there you have it. It's really hard to deal with but you're, you are dealing with it and this is, this is one of the ways, right?
Val Yeah. Mia was raped and murdered and, um...
Greta Two years ago.
Val Two years - about a year and a half ago, July 7th, 1993. And we felt very helpless about that. And a group of her friends got together and thought that, we don't want to be helpless. We want to empower ourselves to make sure that that doesn't happen to any more of our friends.

And so Home Alive is not only a record that's gonna to be coming out to raise money for the organization - the organization is a non-profit, it's a collective here in Seattle, and it's to raise awareness about violence in our community and to try to make people aware of the ways that they can individually make decisions how to take care of themselves.
Greta Yeah, so most of the money that's coming from - from all of the benefits that we do here and - and specifically from the CD project - is gonna go to self defense classes to teach, you know, it's for anybody, for men or women.
Eddie That's right, cause right now they're kind of, they're kind of pricey, aren't they?
Greta Yeah they're - they're a bit on the high side for sure (laughs) and we're trying to, you know, we teach anything, from, you know, verbal assault stuff to gun safety to whatever. We're into advocating whatever kind of defense...
Eddie Defense technique, yeah.
Greta You want to do for yourself. It's like we don't have any one set thing that we...
Val Right.
Greta That we teach, you know. We have - there's a lot of misconceptions about that (?) ...
Val Right. We don't have an agenda. We ask people to know what it is that makes them feel safe and to take their own responsibility for - for that. And that we'll try to give the most resources possible for those people to make those decisions for themselves.
Eddie Well there's a few - there's quite a few bands participating, and everything I've heard has been really good. We just heard the spoken word piece by John S. Hall, again, and another spoken word piece that we'll hear in a minute by a guy named Bobby Miller (laughs). I think you're really gonna like it. (everyone laughs).

And if you don't like it then relax. (laughter) Because - you know sometimes even with - just to go off the subject for a - you know with - I don't know - this is, this is the vocabulary of the real world, so some of you are just gonna have to deal with it.

Anyway, some of the people that are on this record, besides the spoken word, things that we mentioned, there's Soundgarden, Joan Jett, Excene (Cervenka), our band...Letty Lunch (?) is gonna be on there?
Greta Mm-hm. Yeah.
Eddie Wow. And Seven Year Bitch.

Let's go ahead and play this Bobby Miller spoken word, and then the last band is DFL48 we're gonna play after and that's The Gits - who are all the people that are still playing?
David Dancing French Liberals of '48.
Eddie Oh, alright.
Val And there's a lot of other local bands, independent people that aren't, like, very well known yet that will be also and spoken word artists that will also be on the record. Then I - there's no really set time when this record will be released so it probably would be a little bit down the line so...
Eddie Yeah. I think you're waiting on us, actually. (laughs) We just wanna make sure that it's really, really good. As soon as I get my shit together.
David As soon as that guy Eddie records, it'll be out.
Eddie Okay, let's play this stuff and after the song here we're gonna - we're gonna go to Mudhoney who's, like, settin' up in the house. So, here we go.
Song Bobby Miller - Keep Your Mouth off My Sisters

This is dedicated to all the women who walk any street in our country. It's called "Keep your mouth off my sisters."

Sometimes you begin to wonder if it's a conspiracy of men asleep at the wheel...the way they spit out words at women they don't even know...that they will never know. And it scares me to think that compared to the things they say, what must be going on inside their brains?

And I wanna scream at them "Hey, keep your mouth off my sisters! Your words cause emotional blisters!"

Did something happen at birth that caused this malfunction, or did they learn it or earn it in some archaic male ritual? "What's the matter, bitch? You a dike?"

Years spent vomiting out abuse at women and men still don't get it? I want to bend each one of them over and fuck the misogeny out of them. (laughter) To wash their mouths out with my dick and let them feel the collective humiliation of women everywhere to be unable to walk the streets safely without feeling like this served (?) up fresh and piping hot. "Oh, yum. And give me a six-pack to wash it down. Oh, you're the man, man. You're the man. You're the big man, man."

You ever notice there's always two of them? They're never alone - like the coward's tag team match of sexual harassment. "Hey, man, does it make you feel like a man? Hey, man, keep your mouth off my sisters."

Song Dancing French Liberals of '48 - Dancing Foreign Legion
Eddie Are they ready? Cool, there you ready? Well, that's it. Before they get bored, Mudhoney's, like, ready to play. You - you guy's - you're lucky bastards. Mudhoney's gonna go live for you here. This is a - song's from a record that's yet to be released. The record's gonna be called My Brother the Cow. And this is Mudhoney live in the house.
set Mudhoney:
Mark Hey. Howdy. This is the first song off our new album. It's called "Judgment, Rage, Retribution and Thyme." It's about four things. I'm not sure what they are.

Judgment, Rage, Retribution and Thyme.Yeah. Truer words have never been said, right? Song number two.

This is a second song off our new record. It's called "Generation Spokesmodel."

Generation Spokesmodel
Mark Okay, this next song is the third song off our new record and it's called "What Moves the Heart". And it poses the musical question, "What moves the heart?"

"What Moves the Heart"
Mark Thank you and now back to you, Ed.
Eddie I was just in watching. So, thanks Mudhoney. Everybody clap at home. I'll clap with you. (clapping)

Well, that's super cool. Thanks to all the guys and their wives and everybody.

Okay, this is - I should slow down for a second. Stone, are you ready? Do you wanna play some...
Stone Ah, yeah. I need to find my suitcase. It's in the box or something.
Eddie Here ya go. Alright. So Stone, what are - you're gonna play something off of this Loose Groove thing, right?
Stone Yeah.
Eddie You've been working on this.
Stone I am. (Ed laughs). And the first band I'm gonna play is a band called Weapon of Choice...
Eddie I'll go right up there...
Stone And this song's called "You Owe It to You."
Eddie Hey, Stone, does this stuff come out on vinyl?
Stone We're actually doing vinyl. Limited edition. And, actually it hasn't come out yet. There's a lot of complex things in running a record company and I'm running up against them all the time. But, of course it will come out on vinyl. This is "U Owe It to U" and it's on Loosegroove records.
Song Weapon of Choice - U Owe It To U
Stone (?)
Eddie I could stomach most of it.
Stone Alright. That was - that was Weapon of Choice and they're out on Loosegroove records, which is a label I'm starting here in Seattle. And right now we're gonna listen to something else - we're gonna be playing some more Loosegroove stuff later in the night - but right now I really feel like we need to go to Atlanta and play some Outkast. This one goes out to Dirk and Lonnie. See ya.
Song Outkast - Ain't No Thang
Eddie Good one. What was I talk...Stone...Stone left and...
Jeff Outkast...
Eddie Jeff's here.
Jeff I'm Jeff. (laughs)
Eddie Yeah. I never heard that before.
Jeff And we're looking for something to play.
Eddie So this is what Stone listens to. It's good. It's good.
Jeff It is. I like it. (laughter) Really. I like it.
Eddie A cassette.

(Recording by unknown male:) Home grown in my backyard is the best herb you could ever find. (laughter) Home grown in my backyard and the public knows it's mine. If you come over to my place...
Eddie (laughs)
Jeff That was from Jeff Ousley, right?
Eddie I thought that was yours. That's not your tape?
Jeff No, it's not my tape.
Eddie Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, deny it now. You've got a tape then?
Jeff What do we want to listen to, songs or words?
Eddie Let's, uh...actually this...Mike and Layne Stayley and...
Jeff Barrett.
Eddie Barrett the drummer and...
Jeff Baker.
Eddie Baker - Mike's friend Baker playing bass - they're kind of getting ready in the house. They're probably gonna, like, be set. We heard the sounds of - this sounds pretty cool from the house as far as the live bands, so we're pretty excited. And we heard that we haven't lost a station yet so that's good news.
Jeff It's very good news.
Eddie But let's see if we can - let's see if we can push that boundary (Jeff laughs) and you can do a little...you put this together...
Jeff Where - where's the tape?
Eddie Oh, I thought you had it.
Jeff No. Here it is. Right here.
Eddie Alright. Let 'er rip and then we'll go to this thing called Mad Season. Oh, yeah, this is - this is what...
Jeff a dialogue...
Eddie this is what Henry Miller - who's this star, this tape? Who are the stars of this tape?
Jeff Henry Miller, Noam Chomsky, Tom Waits, Iggy Pop.
Eddie You could've just, first...
Jeff Veruca Salt.
Eddie Iggy...Iggy, Tom, Veruca, Henry. Okay.
Jeff Stars.
Eddie Let's go for it.
Song Jeff's tape

(Tape plays)

The laughter, you say, is the most important thing. Not at others but at yourself, huh? That's the great thing.

***

Let's look at the way the media operate, the way the public relations industry operates, the extensive thinking that's been going on for a long, long period about the necessity for finding ways to marginalize and control the public in democratic society.

***

(from Willa Wonka) (sung by Veruca Salt) ...donuts and fruit cake with no nuts so good you could go nuts...

Veruca's father: you can have all those things when you get home.

Veruca Salt (sung): No, now. No, now (repeat).

I want a...

father: (?)

Veruca Salt (sung): Now. I want the world. I want the whole world. I want to lock it all up in my pocket. It's my bar of chocolate. Give it to me now. I want...

***

I look as the man that I am. The confused man. The negligent man. The lusty, obscene, boisterous, thoughtful, scrupulous, lying, diabolically truthful man that I am.

***

It's been accumulated about the way the major media, the sort of agenda-setting media - in the national press, the television and so on - the way that they shape and control the kinds of opinions that appear, the kinds of information that comes through, the sources to which they go, and so on. And I think that (Jade ?) will find some very surprising things about the democratic system...

***

...language and human cognition demonstrate, to me at least, what remarkable creativity ordinary people have. The very fact that people talk to one another is a reflection - just in a normal way, I don't mean anything particularly fancy - reflects deep-seated features of human creativity which, in fact, separate human beings from any other biological system we know.

***
Eddie Alright. We're gonna go to Lane and Mike and Olga - and Mad Season is the name of the deal. (laughs) And it's gonna maybe be released in March - not until March - so if you've got your tape player recording, you're lucky. Or, you know, if you don't have it, you're unlucky. Or, you know, get your tape player going and you'll be fine. This is Mad Season.
set Mad Season
song Lifeless Dead
song I Don't Know Anything
Song Jeff's Tape with Tom Waits and Iggy Pop
Song Jeff's tape with a hilarious exchange between Iggy Pop and Tom Waits

Iggy: Wow. Almost forgot. Listen, I worked with this drummer the other day.

Tom: Yeah. Really?

Iggy: And this guy, man, his name's Giant Robo.

Tom: Yeah.

Iggy: And he clanging and banging and - really hard. Man, I thought of you. I mean, maybe you wanna - this is somebody, I think you oughta check him out.

Tom: Oh, really? You mean - you think I need a professional drummer? Like, I'm not good enough? What are you talking about?

Iggy: No. No. But I'm just - you know - it's a musician. I thought - I just wanted to tell you about this guy. It'd be great, man. I mean - you know, it's like hard and industrial and he's beating, you know and I just thought...wow.

Tom: Well, you know, what - what are you trying to tell me? I need a drummer? I could use a drummer? Because I'm not - my drumming on my record sucks? What are you saying?

Iggy: (pause). Ah, forget it, man. Forget it.

Jeff Um, That was my friend Tom and Iggy - they're my friends. That was an excellent performance by Mad Season. I'm really looking forward to hearing the rest of the record. Mike actually played me a couple of weirder songs and, um, I though it was really nice. Um, this is a song that some of my friends - kinda an eclectic group of friends - Robbie Robb, friend of mine from South Africa, and Cary and Richard and this amazing keyboard/bongo player named Amos. So, here's a song called "Solitude" by Jungle Oats.
Song "Solitude" - Jumble Oats (later renamed Three Fish)
Jeff We have a song coming by another band that's a ... too unknown, with a non-LP song called "President's Test".
Song "The President's Test for Physical Fitness" - American Music Club
Jeff I already told you that that was American Music Club, but Eddie wanted me to say that again anyways, so...
Eddie I'll take the mic. I think you might be getting tired of hearing my voice, but it's a necessity to get from one song to the next right now and, I'll tell you what, I'll address the issue of phone calls. We're still kind of chock full of music here so we're gonna keep going with this. And uh, this is another rare...well, this is a rare opportunity to play this stuff to ya. It's two songs by Dave Grohl. As far as I know, he's played everything on these songs. He's playing all the instruments. He played it to me a while back. We ended up recording a song or two with Mike Watt. And uh, we might give speaker phone calls, and I think we might make a couple calls out before we take any in. And uh, I think we're gonna try to call Watt down in Pedro and, uh, I'm gonna just let these Dave Grohl songs fly. They're just...they're really good.
Song "Gas Chamber" - Dave Grohl
other (Radio London) Wonderful Radio London - Whoopee!
Song "Exhauseted" - Dave Grohl
Song "Pain In My Heart" - Babes In Toyland
Eddie Ahh. That's a ... that's ... if ever you hear that song, that's Babes In Toyland. I remember listening to that song. I had it on ... Beth brought it on cassette or something on we were driving somewhere. I think we escaped somewhere. Maybe it was one of our first escapes a long time ago and we were in some car and the top was down in some beautiful place, but we're cranking this kinda heavy tune and I just remember just wanting to like jump of a ...ya know ...take the car off a cliff (2 people laugh) die in that moment. It was a good moment. But we were just talking about that out in the yard here we were just talking about listening to a song in a certain place and uh, this is Kim from the Fastbacks here. Steve Turner's here too. But you said you had Dave Grohl's tape. With you and you were where?
Kim We went to Guatemala for Christmas. I brought it with me and it was just really awesome to hear that on top of these pyramids and (Steve: (laugh)). Because it is such a great song. "This is a Call" is the name of the song. And it was such an amazing place to see the jungle and hear that music. It was really great.
Eddie Yeah. It doesn't'...listening to music outside for some reason, it just kinda challenges things.
Kim Especially when...I hadn't really listened to much music when you were down there. I mean it was the only cassette I brought with me. And that should say how much I like it.
Eddie Lucky you. Now Steve, you had a ...we were just commenting on the genius of Dave Grohl's record. (Dave Grohl). And you had a ... and you had a comment.
Steve Um, the genius started long a go in "Dain Bramage" (everyone laughs) that would be the band he was in about '86 or so.
Eddie Now obviously, we feel totally comfortable about bringing this up and (Steve: yeah.)(Krist: I'm sure he's psyched about it) because he's so fucking good now. (Steve: yeah) What can you say?
Steve He started off good, he kept getting better.
Eddie cool.
Krist That's a good thing.
Eddie Well, speaking of, if I look in the house, the next band is ready to play and the next band is uh well it's Chris, Kim, Matt and Ben of Soundgarden. So, they're gonna play some songs for ya and I hope you enjoy them.
set Soundgarden
Song Blind Dogs
Song Fell on Black Days
Song Kyle Petty, Son of Richard
Song No Attention
Song Bass tuning tape
Song "Do Me" by the Frogs
Eddie Well, uh, I bet you like that. That's the Frogs. Jimmy from the frogs. I was thinking of calling his brother Denis in Milwaukee. Um, we'll try doing that. Krist Novaselic is here; he's sitting next to me. We're gonna try to call Denis. Then we're gonna try and call Mike Watt... so let me uh...Krist, you have anything to say while I find Denis' number here.
Krist Clear thought. What am I gonna say? Well, everybody looks all happy and healthy tonight. It's really nice seeing people who are hanging out. And it's really really wonderful....
Eddie (laughing) Just so ya know.
Krist It's like a community thing.
Eddie And you actually mean that (Krist: yeah) Sometimes you can sound sarcastic.
Krist Yeah, cynical. But I'm trying to overcome my cynicism. I don't want be...
Eddie Yeah, it's really neat to hear. That's pretty neat.
Kim It's fantastic. It's community
Eddie So let's uh. We're gonna spread, we're gonna make our community wider. We're gonna try to call our friend Denis in Milwaukee. Oh, do I... I need to press this in. hush. (Hitting buttons and it sounds like he's cheming on a straw - ugh! gross!) Is this working? This is the first phone call we've tried (Krist: uh oh). So uh, give us a second. Try it again? Ok, I'm dialing now and you can't hear this.
Krist (singing) "Dialing for dollars is trying to find me"
Eddie (Imitating a generic DJ) We've got uh, we've got 86 from the top and 13 from the bottom if you're the uhh...
Krist Oh me, me!
Eddie Hey Denis. Denis?
Denis How's it goin?
Eddie Alright, good, are you listening?
Denis Yeah.
Eddie We just played Jimmy's song. It sounded good uh, you've got a ... you've got a um.... Are the kids asleep?
Denis Yeah.
Eddie Can you play this thing loud enough so we can hear?
Denis Yeah, it's all cued.
Eddie Cool, so this is uh, do you have a name for this yet? You see, Denis, well he actually just played me this song on the phone the other day and I uh, and I begged him to play it for everybody. So uh, we'll do that if you can play it. What's this? Does it have a title? (dead silence for about 3 seconds) ... "Johnny?"
Denis Yeah, I was making the people wait. It's a "Johnny get out of my jidge"
all (laugh)
Eddie Ok, let's hear it.
Denis Ok.
Song "Johnny get out of my jidge" by Dennis from the Frogs
Eddie Wow!
Krist Those kids have nothing on Yoko Ono. (Ed: laugh) or she doesn't have nothin on them.
Denis Thank you man, what...
Eddie Hey Denis, thanks.
Denis Thank you man.
Eddie It was great. Ah, just know, another radio hit goin' out the masses.
Krist How things been hanging Jim? (correcting himself) Denis?
Denis What's that?
Krist Hey Denis, it's Krist Novaselic.
Denis Hi, how's it goin?
Krist Got your letter.
Denis Yeah.
Krist Thanks.
Denis Thank you.
Krist Alright.
Denis We got to ...we got to take the cow for a walk in a little...a little while.
Eddie Hey Denis, you don't have any of that Wesley Willis stuff lying around do you?
Denis Um. If I could find it. I do. You want it?
Eddie Actually yeah. I mean, you know. Wesley Willis his whole repertoire is a...we'll take anything.
Denis Here it is. This is a uh. I'm hearing the delay downstairs. What's it called ... "They Threw Me Out of Church".
Song "They threw me out of church" by Wesley Willis
Denis Can you handle it?
Eddie Ah man. Well I could, you know he's one of my favorites. Just the fact that you know that really happened and that his lyrics are honest. That's all I want in music. An honest lyric? Well, we're gonna try and call Watt on the phone.
Denis "Watt?" (jokingly, as in "what?")
all (laugh)
Krist (Imitating Dennis) What?
Denis I'm just warming up. I was a little nervous before but uh, you know.
Eddie Well uh, I'll call you tomorrow. Just be you and me.
Denis Ok.
Eddie Ok, see you Denis.
Denis Bye.
Eddie Goodnight. Ok, so let's uh. Let's call Watt and play some songs off this record (somone off mic: What?) (Ed flipping through a book).
Krist Off, that's the off button on the phone.
Eddie Oh, on the phone. Ok, so uh, Watt's number is...hey Krist, you have something to say while I ...(laughing)
Krist You sure Mike's awake right now? I called him. (Ed: No, I...) I think I called him the other night and he wanted 5 words about his record. I called at midnight and he goes "Watt goes to bed at nine".
Eddie Right I know.
Krist 'Cause he gets up at dawn.
Eddie That's right, I know. Well he told me he was gonna stay up.
Krist He's gonna stay up. His eyes are kinda bloodshot. (Ed: Stay up late) he's like "uhhhhh". He's got some kinda jet lag.
Eddie Well he was looking for those 5 words for like the ... for vinyl.
Krist Oh, I got em too. "Many bands make tight work".
Eddie Wow this would be like...about Minutemen? (not getting it Krist's little saying).
Krist Well, like yeah... the bands, but also like you "band" something up with a bander (ed getting it. ohhhh.) You'd make a "tight work". You know it's also like "bands", you know? Since this project there's so many bands and personnel.
Eddie So many people. And we're going to talk to him about that. But that's. ... And he was asking for secret messages. Because they go on... I don't know if.... We're going to talk to you about vinyl for a second. Because vinyl, there's little secret codes on the inside of vinyl.
Krist We had one on our first single we did with Nirvana with "Love Buzz" and it was. "You should trade in those guitars for shovels!". I mean, that's what my.... we were practicing in our garage and my dad walked in and told that to us.
Eddie That was the quote.
Krist (Imitating his dad) Yeah. "You should trade in those guitars for shovels" he's a machinist work ethic. Labor-union-type person.
Eddie Well, isn't that like...now you own shovels and guitars.
Krist I got picks and pitchforks, pickeroos, all types of implements, hose, rakes made of hickory handles made out of good hard hickory wood.
Eddie No slivers
Krist No slivers. Yeah, smooth and strong (woo voice) "smooth and strong"
Eddie Speakin' of smooth and strong. Maybe we'll give old, calm Mike Watt a call (Ed: There you go.) We're gonna try call Mike down in a ... oh there's another band setting up by the way. I don't know who it is and we're going to take calls later. In fact before we call Watt, let me address the issues that it's 10.26 and we uh. And we told the radio stations three hours, three hours of time and that might be what they cleared out and by the way, too, we heard that some of the radio stations were saying that we were in their city and in their station actually. I think that happened in Los Angeleez and somewhere else (Krist: Phony baloney.) I just wanted to clarify that we are in Seattle. (Krist: Right.) Let's uh, give a call to Pedro. And anyways, we're reaching that 10:30 point and I know that ... I know that uh ... there's at least one more band that's gonna play and we have some more satellite time so we might lose some of you but we're gonna keep playing here. And uh. I think um. I'll take calls here after we play. We're gonna play one more time.
Krist You can always shove Dr. Dimento back a couple of hours. All you programmers listening to this so uh....
Eddie There you go, kris. I've taken Krist's advice and it's done nothing but positive things for my life.
Krist Let's call uh...(hitting buttons) ... that's uh "on" ..."out"..."on"...the bottom...and I can put this down? I don't here it ringing.
Watt Yeah, it's Watt.
Eddie Hey Watt.
Krist Hi Mike.
Eddie It's Eddie.
Krist It's Krist.
Eddie And Krist.
Watt What's up? Hey Eddie
Eddie We got the bass brotherhood going. I should get Lukin in here.
Krist Did you get the five words I told you? You were really groggy that night.
Watt Well, you know. I'm single (Ed: (laugh))...
Krist "Many bands..."
Watt Right, I had it carved inside.
Krist Alright.
Eddie You did. Now mine was kinda long. But you know, (Watt: It fit.) There's no way to shorten it. You use it?
Watt Nah, it fit all in. Little writing.
Eddie Wow, mine was "You can't change the strap on Dee Boone's hat" (Krist: Ohhh wow) because he gave me Dee Boone's had and I put it on and uh, (Watt: oh yeah) it fit, but we were in the truck and the window was open and I thought maybe I should just put it on tighter, so it didn't fall off, and you know, and then I though "No, no, you can't change the strap on Dee Boone's hat"
Krist It looked like you had a big head.
Eddie Well, it's almost the size of mine (laugh), (Watt: he's a big man) so there you have it.
Watt He's a big man. You know, you wouldn't...there's this delay, it's a trip.
Eddie (Simultaneously with Krist) Oh, turn your radio down Mike.
Eddie That's good to know you're listening anyway.
Watt Oh yeah, alright.
Eddie So, Watt, we're gonna play something off your record now, when's this...there's all kinds of things on this. When's it coming out?
Watt Feb. 7th.
Eddie Feb. seventh.
Watt Yep. Well, you know.
Eddie And it's comin' out on vinyl for sure.
Watt Yah, blue.
Eddie Blue vinyl.
Watt They look like germ circles.
Eddie Yeah, yeah.
Krist Oh wow. Germ blue, that's a shade.
Eddie Speaking of the Germs, Pat...
Watt If we're gonna wear 'em on TV, we should put 'em out on vinyl. Germ circles.
Eddie And speaking of that, Pat Smear sings a song.
Watt Yeah, he does. Great. An old Minutemen song.
Eddie that's uh, "For Every One Reporter's Opinion" right?
Watt Yeah.
Eddie I've got it right in front of me, so I know.
Watt Well, hook's to doe(?) song, the Minutemen was the second part with Pat.
Eddie Oh, that's right.
Watt Pat tripled up on himself.
Eddie Well we were uh, we were kinda running late and that's no big deal, we're gonna just keep goin and whoever wants to stick with us can stick with us, and whoever doesn't can miss out. But uh... there's just tons of ...there's so many people on this... there's a lot of people that are playing on this record...you're playing with a log of friends, and I bet....
Watt Big match.
Eddie That' right, well, the name of the record's "Ball Hog or Tugboat" but you said you called it your wrestling record (Watt: yeah). Wrestling, because uh....
Watt Or "The Petri Dish something like that.
Eddie "Get in the Ring with Watt".
Watt Right, "Chemistry Set".
Eddie And there's all kinds of people, I bet if you ... the length of time you've known all these people, if you added them all up, I bet you'd be eligible for retirement.
Watt Yeah, hard guard.
all (Laughing)
Eddie Should we ...should we play...should we play...
Watt I'm really grateful for them, all the contenders that helped me with that.
Eddie Ahh, yeah, well. The contenders would say the same. Without gettin' too mushy, do you want to play a song?
Watt Sure.
Eddie Let's try, let's try "Big Train" and maybe stay on the line and we'll talk to you more.
Watt Yep.
Eddie Ok.
Watt Thank you.
Eddie This is off a record that's gonna come out called "Ballhog or Tugboat". This is Mike Watt's dilemma. The first song is "Big Train". Might take a second here. Here we go...
Song "Big train" - Mike Watt
Watt (Laughing) I thought we were playing Carla's songs.
Eddie Oh, no.
Watt I got the whole song over the phone here.
Eddie Oh good, no, Carla...
Watt We're talking and it didn't sound like anybody could hear.
Eddie Carla...no, uh, I couldn't. I was trying to see if I could talk to you during the (Watt: It's too much) it made you listen to the song, though. How do you feel about it now, it's been like a month or a few weeks.
Watt Over the phone...
all (Laughing)
Krist Fiber optics
all (Laughing)
Krist You will... (imitating a phone operator) "You will hear Mike Watt."
Watt Wow, I wasn't ready for that.
Krist "You will..." it's like that AT&T commercial: "Whoever you are, some phone company..."
Watt It was like 4 minutes long, I don't think...
Krist That's not a pop single.
Watt No...It's a trip.
Eddie Well that was uh...
Watt The way I guess heard music when I was a kid. In those little close-and-play type. (Ed: Wow) They spilled grape juice, him and his brother. They go bellig(erent) and spilled grape juice all over the Creedence record.
all (Laughing)
Eddie On his close-and-play
Watt That's what it sounded like...anyway.
Eddie Well that was uh...
Watt Thanks for sending me back a few years...wow.
Eddie Um. That uh ... I guess Dave. Uh. Most of that was recorded up here. Wasn't it? Seattle. (Watt:Yeah it was) I mean I was there.
Watt Yep. I guess, yeah. In three different towns. Frankenstein.
Eddie Oh, because...
Watt The Cookwood brothers did it here, and Mascis did ...
Eddie and Jay Mascis did it in New York, and Dave Grohl did it here and I played some guitar up here.
Watt Right, In Bob Lang's hole.
Krist Bob's bunker.
Watt I got to learn about Seattle. It was really nice. But, most of it. There was no rain. We were like 40ft under his house with all the marble. And uh... yeah. Krist on the Farfeesa.
Krist I was playing the Farfeesa.
Eddie That was Farfeesa on the other song..."(Against) the Seventies".
Watt I think he came right after that.
Eddie Yeah, that was a nice day. Well, it's a nice day here, too, Watt.
Watt I never played with a Farfeesa.
Krist It's like Blondie.
Watt That whole thing, I never really drank wine in a long time.
Krist Oh, that's right, all that wine. (High voice) Wine, wine, wine!
Watt I'm glad we got recording. One big A-chord. Usually I use D-chords.
Krist You were talking about pentatonic scales and the Masons and five-pointed stars (Watt: Oh, right) This big conspiracy thing.
Watt Uh-huh.
Eddie Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Krist That was the mood. If you want to know the mood of the session. It was red wine and heavy conspiracy.
Eddie Fouculus Pendulum.
Krist Whose pendulum?
Eddie foculus?
Krist Foculus?
Watt A bomber went down at 3:33 or something. 3:23, 2:23 ...
Eddie Hey Watt, I've been reading this book. How do I say the name? fockuluts
Watt Focallus
Eddie Focallus pendulum. Ok. Well, we know we're gonna go way over if we start talking about focult's pendulum with you (Krist laughs, Watt: that's true). Let's um. We're gonna go to that thing that Kathleen...uh, I don't know her but uh (Watt: Olympia) I've seen a lot of the things that she's doin' obviously. And uh, kinda right up a...it's a good alley anyway. But uh, she's ...she's gonna be on this record actually in a way shape or form.
Watt She's the estrogen balance...ballast.
all (Laughing)
Eddie We're gonna play that. And then uh...I'm gonna say goodbye to you now. We're gonna play that. And then uh, and then uh. Krist is gonna do something and then we're gonna move on. So uh. Thanks for staying up late.
Watt Yeah, no problem. Krist, Eddie, thanks.
Eddie Ok, see you. Goodnight, Watt.
Watt All you guys there.
Krist Goodnight, Mike.
Eddie Alright. Out. Uh, let's see if we can find this little head. Just go in there. We're goin to cassette?
Song Kathleen Hanna
Tape Kathleen Hanna's voice message on Mike Watt's answering machine. (trascription coming soon)
other (Han Solo from Star Wars "You know, sometimes I amaze even myself"
other (Also from Star Wars as the rebel fleet is approaching the Death Star) "This is it!"
Eddie Uh, that was Kathleen Hanna, this is Crunt.
Song "Black Heart" by Crunt
Eddie Alright. That was Crunt. And this is Krist Novaselic with surprise, surprise.
Krist Ok, here I go. This is uh ... I'm writing a book about a guy who's trying to overcome his cynicism. An uh, this is I guess the first chapter.
Krist A reading from his book.
Krist That's it.
other (The same Han Solo bit as before) "You know, sometimes I amaze even myself"
Krist Well, there you go. I just want to say that I'm more into Jesus than I am St. Paul (laugh). And uh...
Eddie Hey oh. Thanks. That was. I think we all appreciated that.
Krist Thank you for having me, Eddie.
Eddie Ok, back to radio land (whisper) That's It. Is he on this date tonight?
Krist There's a jam goin on in there (the band room). They're live.
Eddie Go to it. Go to live.
comment (Closing notes of a jam)
Krist Oh, they just ended the jam (laughing) Jeff is laughing, so is Mike.
Eddie Are you with us?
Cary Stay with us.
Eddie Well, we're trying to get to the room, but we can't.
Cary You want to go to the room?
other "It's smooth sailing..."
Eddie Well, now they just ended.
Krist There we go. It's smooth sailing (laugh)
Eddie Go to the DAT. It's smooth sailing...
other "It's smooth sailing with the highly successful sound of wonderful Radio London.
Song "Tattoo" - The Who
other "Radio London reminds you, go tot the church of your choice"
Eddie Alright. Hey, the guys are playing without me in the room. So uh, that song is dedicated to the person who's our official new drummer. And uh, it's Jack Irons. That one goes out to him. And uh. There's some noise going on in the house. It's everybody in the band except me.
song (Over some blues, somebody's singing (Krist?) - or screaming with sarcasm, that is) Roadhouse blues ... Oh shit, my cellular phone went out, awwwww, can't call Microsoft ... (Ed: (softly) Are you back with me?). Laurelhurst... Laurelhurst ... Laurelhurst ... Laurelhurst! Laurelhurst! Laurelhurst!!!! Oh, you're all so fine and white (Ed:Hah. Did you hear that?) Laurelhurst! I wanna belong to the beach club! I wanna belong to the beach club! I wanna belong to the beach club! That's where all the beautiful people are, in the Laurelhurst beach club! Laurelhurst! Laurelhurst! Laurelhurst! (Jam ends)
Eddie Alright. Well, that's what they would be without me. Sounds pretty good. I think I'm gonna quit and move to Costa Rica. I think they'll be just fine. Uh, that was cool. I was gonna make a couple of phone calls. Uh, but ... The energy, uh... Maybe I should just get in there and play. Um. Come back, will ya? Well, it's 11 o'clock Seattle time. Again, we're broadcasting from Seattle. It's been really nice from the secret spot and no one's hassled us. So uh, we've had a great time. Everyone's just having a really good time. I hope you are too. And uh, we're a half-an-hour over officially. We're gonna keep... I'm gonna go in. We'll play some songs. And then uh, maybe I'll make a couple of phone calls and take a couple of phone calls after this. So uh. I'll just leave you with something hear.
other Bass tuning tape
set Pearl Jam Set:Last Exit
Blood
Tremor Christ
Porch
Indifference
Song "Zero Zero Zero One" and "Magnog" - Hovercraft
Eddie Alright. (Laugh) Well hey. Back from playing. There gonna cut us off in a little bit. So I'm gonna tell you who that was. That was hovercraft. And uh. Magnum. And uh. Kinda a cleansing of the palette there. Uh. We hope you had a super cool time. We actually had a great time here. Uh. Really cool vibe in this tiny place. It would've been great to have y'all here. You know, like attend. And get beer out of the keg and all that. But you know I guess (laugh) you got as close to it as you good. Hopefully. I hope you had a good time. Anyway. I'm gonna talk a little bit about what we're gonna be doin' next week. And uh, I might even try and make a phone call to uh...Cause Dee from L7, the drummer from L7 is in town. She's actually over at Krist's house. She said she was gonna come tonight. But uh, she's been out every night. I think last night they saw Wool. The night before uh we were over at Matt Lukin's house - that you heard play bass before with Mudhoney. Blah, blah, blah. Namedropping! I'm dropping Matt Lukin's name. Let's see if we can get a hold of Dee, I don't' know if she knows we're calling. Do I press this out button or on? Bottom one on?
Shelley Hello?
Eddie Hey shelly.
Shelley Yeah?
Eddie I don't want to embarrass you cause we're on the radio but is Dee there?
Shelley Yeah, just a second.
Eddie (To himself) Hope she's not...hope she's not asleep.
Dee Hello?
Eddie Hey Dee.
Dee Hey
Eddie Did you uh go to bed already?
Dee What?
Eddie Did you go to bed tonight?
Dee I'm just reading.
Eddie Wow uh...
Dee Yeah.
Eddie I got to tell you we're on the radio.
Dee We are? (Laugh)
Eddie Yeah, I just thought I'd call. I was gonna talk.... We went over a little bit. We were supposed to end a little early but I was going to talk about that thing we were doing in D.C.
Dee Yeah. It's gonna be great. Constitution Hall.
Eddie it's for voters for choice (right) and the date is uh. Well actually it's two shows, the 14th and 15th in Washington D.C. at Constitution Hall (Dee: Yeah) I think it's been sold out. I think they did tickets by mail order or something. We're still trying to figure out a way to distribute tickets equally and uh make everybody...you know, we don't want to upset anybody, but uh it's gonna be your band L7 of which you ...you'll play drums. You usually play drums.
Dee I usually play drums for L7, yes, but (Ed: And what happened?) I won't be playing those two shows because.
Eddie (Sarcastically) Cause you don't agree with the issue or what?
Dee Uh, yeah, no, that's not it, um...
Eddie I don't think that's it (laugh)
Dee I'm waiting for my new set of hands. My bionic hands (Ed: That's right you're um) I'm having hand transplants.
Eddie Yeah actually I saw.... well I told you I saw Dee the other night and she's got uh...she looks like a recovering suicide ... failed suicide attempt.
Dee Yeah I get a lot of attention.
Eddie (laughing) Yeah, so...
Dee Um, but uh, Dan Peters of Mudhoney will be sitting in for me.
Eddie Alright, so Dee's got scars on her wrist cause she just got carpal tunnel surgery. So she can't play, but she's till gonna play there (Dee: Right) and Dee is the poster girl for Rock For Choice (laugh) that's her silhouette you see on the t-shirt that ...or the sign that you'll see.
Dee And again, Dan Peters from Mudhoney will be sitting in for me.
Eddie Which is well, super cool.
Dee So I know it's gonna be a great show.
Eddie And uh...
Dee And of course you guys open the night.
Eddie We're playing and uh.
Dee Neil.
Eddie Neil Young.
Dee Then there's gonna be us.
Eddie And the whole band like Crazy Horse is gonna be playing too. So uh, it's super cool. Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna actually try to call ...someone gave me Neil's Young...um young Neil's number. Yeah, so I'm gonna I'm gonna give him a ring and uh ... (Dee:okay) Thanks for lettin us uh...
Dee Tell him I said "hello".
Eddie I will, yeah. You'll uh...have you guys met?
Dee Yeah. Kinda. Quickly.
Eddie Was you on the same bill or something?
Dee No, he came to Lollapalooza. He was...(Ed:hmmm)...checkin us out on the side of the stage and I talked to him afterwards.
Eddie Wow.
Dee But briefly, just like a "Hello".
Eddie Yeah, he's alright. Well, let's see if he's home and I'll bid you goodnight. (Dee:Alright, well um I'll...) and I'm I gonna... You're leaving in the morning or something aren't huh?
Dee I'm leaving tomorrow night.
Eddie Okay.
Dee So um, if you want you know. We may hook up with Beth for lunch, so uh, just come along.
Eddie Okay. Well we'll be here at the Royal. Actually we're gonna be answering ...(laugh) and we're answering...we'll be answering phone calls.
Dee Tomorrow afternoon.
Eddie Tomorrow afternoon. We owe it to everybody out there. (Dee: Ah...) we'll be answering calls for a while. (Dee: Okay) We didn't do them on the air, but.
Dee Well then I'll see you.
Eddie Maybe stop by before you go home.
Dee Alright.
Eddie Okay.
Dee Take care.
Eddie Okay.
Dee Bye.
Eddie Goodnight Dee. I hate to get all personal on you and do all this stuff, but let's uh. Let's uh let's just try to call Neil.
Cary Press "off".
Eddie Did I do it right? All "off"? And then "on".
Cary No, then it's "off".
Eddie Number. Sorry guys.
Cary It's ok
Eddie One...no, you guys are ok. People listening. (Ed actually audibly mumbles his number - good move Ed.) XXX-XXX-XXXX. Ok, now I turn "on" or something. Like that? ring...
Eddie Getting good at it. ring... ring...
Eddie You know what? It's like... Uh ... It's almost midnight west coast time. ring...
Eddie Maybe I shouldn't bug him. I'll let it ring one more time. ring...
Eddie ehhhhhhhhhhh... one more time. ring...
Eddie (laugh) Okay. Well, uh, well we're gonna see Neil next week uh. Like I said. You know, I don't uh ... I shouldn't get heavy on you before we go, but I'll read you a couple things.

First of all, one of the ... uh ... affiliates in this thing called Voters for Choice. Uh, it's a little different than Rock for Choice is uh ... Gloria Steinem. Uh. I've read a lot about her, and uh just knowing her work with Ms. magazine. Uh I don't know if you've ever noticed when you pick up a magazine like Rolling Stone or Spin uh. Boy you can ... you can count the pages that you've spent your hard-earned money on in advertisement. Before, that's how I kinda read magazines. You know, I pick them up and count the pages of ads before the first article. You know, give me some text. And I want to know, you know .... How few and far between it is. And ideally I like a very dense magazine, you know. But anyways, Rolling Stone, or uh even Spin, you know, fine people ... (laugh) 20 pages, 23 pages ... I think was one of the Rolling Stone ones. They're gonna be very upset, but no this is the truth. And uh. Uh. They can talk to me about it or whatever they want. Uh. But you look at a magazine like Ms., and Gloria Steinem and some other people started this thing. And there are no advertisements in Ms. magazine. Um. One of the ... probably the main reason isn't just to be cool. Uh, it's because if you have ... uh. Let's say you have a ... I'm just gonna throw out a name, not to get in trouble but let's say you have an agreement with Chanel to run some ads and they, uh, write you after they see an article about lesbians in your magazine. In your Ms. magazine. And they say "We're not very comfortable with you using the word 'lesbian', talking about 'lesbian'." I shouldn't have said Chanel because it could have been anybody. I don't know if it was them. I'm just ... It could have been, you know, Heinz ketchup or whatever. But they - the advertisers - call and let people know they're very uncomfortable with this, And that they won't advertise in your magazine if they continue to keep talking about "lesbians", for example. And this is the reality. This is reality. We all have to deal with it and educate ourselves. And this whole contradiction between not educating ourselves and yet at the same time expecting.... What is it? Celibacy? Or ... uh ... um. "Just say no?" It's gotta be education. You know, we have to have educated people out there, and from a young age. And they're gonna learn about this stuff one way or another. And they might as well be educated to make a correct decision when the when the dilemma comes up ... when the issue comes up.

Anyways, I'm gonna go ahead and read you uh...a memo from Voters for Choice. Now this was written on December 30, 1994, from Julie Burton, who's the national director. I'm just gonna read it here. You can turn this off if you want or whatever. It's no big deal. I'm not preaching. I don't give a fuck. I'm just gonna read it.

"I can't believe it happened again. How much do we have to bear? And the sad thing is it's not going away. There are fanatics out there who will stop at nothing including murder to force their views on us all. Today ..."(aside: Again, this is December 30) "Seven people were the victims of yet another brutal anti-choice attack. Two women are dead, five are wounded. The assassin entered the (Ed pauses and breathes disparagingly) assassin entered the Planned Parenthood Clinic of greater Boston shortly after 10 AM, pulled a 22-caliber semi-automatic rifle from a duffle bag, killed the receptionist and wounded three other people. He continued the carnage a mile down the road at the Pre-Term Health Services Clinic where he killed one person and wounded two more. The women killed today join an ever growing list of individuals assaulted for providing critical - and legal - health services to women. Dr. David Gunn, murdered, shot in the back 3/10/93. Dr. George Tiller, attempted murder, shot in both arms, 8/19/93. Dr. John Britton, murdered, shot in the head, 7/29/94. James Barrett, murdered, died escorting Dr. John Britton, 7/29/94. June Barrett, attempted m-murder, widowed and wounded, 7/29/94 (aside: That was her husband that was killed). And Dr. Gary Romales, attempted murder, shot in the legs, 11/8/94."

(Pausing) That's besides the, uh, the seven people last week or whenever it was -- a week and a half ago.

"How many more victims will there be before patients, personnel, and doctors won't have to face the intimidation of terrorists? Pro-Choice forces long have contended that there is a national strategy of murder within the Pro- Anti-Choice community. Recently we discovered a "how-to terrorist handbook" - the third edition in three years published by the Army of God and distributed nationally. The book provides step-by-step instructions on how to assault clinics with bombs, chemical agents and other violent means. Since it was first published, attacks on clinics have tripled. Many Anti-Choice leaders continue to refuse to take responsibility for their rhetoric and the violence it encourages. (aside: If you can listen close to this part.) Operation Rescue's Reverand Pat Mahoney blamed today's violence on the freedom of access to clinic entrances law (aside: That's the Face Law) for opening the doorway to vigilante actions by harassing and intimidating peaceful process...protesters. As you know the Face Law is the only law on the books to protect family planning clinics from violence. The solution is not to take away the one small protection of afforded clinics."

What they're saying is that by protecting them they're ... they're urging them to protest in a more violent way. By...by not letting them walk in the front door, they're saying that they create a more violent situation on the sidewalk. hmmm

"Now ..."

I'm gonna go back to this

"Now more than ever..."

Well, let me go back.

The solution is not to take away the one small protection of afforded clinics, but to expand and add to it. That's what we just talked about. "Now more than ever, we must fight the conservative tide that has taken over Congress. We must elect progressive leaders who will vote for federal funding of U.S. Marshalls at all clinics... (aside: This is our ... we're protecting what we voted for (exasperated laugh) who will push for more clinic protections and who will advocate better and swifter investigations of anti-choice criminal extremists."

Um, it's kinda heavy. I mean, you know we're having a good time on the radio and whatever, but it's good to take care of this stuff and you guys should know. And uh anyway here was a quote from Gloria. Actually this was a ...a note and it said: "Gloria hadn't heard about the shootings until she got my note yesterday." Good thing we did. Here's her quote.:

"Nothing could be more clear..." ... and this, this takes it to another level so if you're still with me, then listen close. "Nothing could make more clear than this Massachusetts massacre than the deepest message of the anti-abortion movement ... the deepest message of the anti-abortion movement is not pro-life, but anti-women; not mutual respect, but terrorist control. These anti-abortion terrorists continue to show us what they will do. The question is what the U.S. government will do and its voters will do. When we finally make clear that the lives and freedom of women of all races are as important as the airlines, that the...World Trade Center and other targets that threaten male...uh male - as well as female - life and business as usual."

What they're saying is we've totally, you know... there was problems with the World Trade Center, we took care of it. When there were problems at the airlines with terrorist activity we took care of it. Nothing has been done so far. And there's there's... these these clinics are obvious targets. It goes on to say:

"Will crimes against women finally be taken as seriously as others? Until we see culprits punished and crimes prevented, every man and woman in America must make the protection of our community and our clinics a personal priority. If we have to stand guard outside their uh doors ourselves we must make sure this never happens again. I pledge myself to that end. I send my deepest sympathy to all who have suffered from this terrorism and my support to all who protect freedom in spite of it."

Well, there you have it. So we're gonna go play next week and see what we can do ... do a little press conference. You know. It's something we all ... it's just a right. We voted on it, it was taken care of and ...um I don't know, uh, it's hard stuff to think about. Well, I think we're uh...I think we're just about out of here. I'm gonna play one more song and say goodbye. Thanks for listening and we'll try to end it on a better note. But Jeff's right here. Wanna say goodbye?
Jeff Bye.
Eddie And uh.
Jeff Bye.
Eddie We heard it sounded really good from the room. We want to thank Mudhoney and the Fastbacks and uh. Even I thank Slant Six for.... I hope they're ok with me playing their record. And Crunt and Cat and every body and Soundgarden of course, Krist Novaselic, Dave Grohl for lettin me play his tape. Thank you for listening to my lame fucking voice for so long. Um. Did I miss anybody? Everybody ... mainly again, we heard the room sounded great and uh we just wanted to say thanks to Cary. Oh! and I'm gonna uh ... like I said, w-we'll answer phones tonight. And I'll answer them tomorrow and I'll answer them Tuesday. Uh. I'll spend some time just seeing how you guys are doing. 206-XXX-XXXX. Call me with your opinions, tell me what you think, tell me what you think of us talking about this kinda stuff. Tell em...tell me real stuff. Don't get all nervous when I pick up the phone. Okay?

Um. Again, I wanna go back and real quick ... sorry. Thank the crew. We couldn't have done it without them and uh all these radio stations pages of them. WNEW - New York, Pittsburgh, Utica, Dover, Pough(keepsie)...it goes on for a few pages. I don't know if any of them pulled out.

I'm talkin' too much, but uh, I just, it's not uh... we appreciate being able to broadcast to ya, so uh, hope you enjoyed it and we'll see you guys next time. See you in dc. Goodnight!
Song What a wonderful life - Louis Armstrong



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